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Calling any Patch Base experts -- question about modifying a TX7 library

Postby Ben Asaro » Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:54 pm

This may be an absolutely dumb question, but ...

SETUP. I have umpteen libraries for my TX7 as sysex patches. I usually use Sysex Librarian and a Mio to get the libraries loaded into the TX7. No problem there, it works a treat.

PROBLEM. What I would like to do is get patches from several libraries loaded into a single "uber library" for live work. As the TX7 can hold 32 presets, it's got more than enough for a single live show.

HYPOTHESIS. Using Sysex Librarian and Patch Base, would it be possible to load a library to the TX7, then use Patch Base to cherry pick the patch or two that I want, save them to my iPad, and then re load them to the TX7 in the order of my choosing, thereby creating my own custom library?

Thanks in advance!
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Re: Calling any Patch Base experts -- question about modifying a TX7 library

Postby BillB » Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:14 pm

Hi Ben

Not sure how well Patchbase would work as a librarian, in terms of organising a new sysex bank of patches. Don’t think being a librarian is it’s main thing, more of an editor with patch storage, which is a little different.

Anyway, an alternative suggestion would be for you to look at DEXED, free VST DX7 emulator / Editor / librarian. I haven’t used it myself yet, but this looks like an option for creating your Uber library. Instructions on combining patches into new sysex banks here:

https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopi ... 3#p7074253

Alternatively, I have MidiQuest which has a librarian for DX/TX amongst many others. If you wanted to send me source banks and a list of which patches you want where, I could send you back your desired bank. Obviously that’s not a really ‘sustainable’ option - you will be wanting a solution you can control and repeat yourself. But the offer is there, if it helps.

I do have an interest as I have just discovered, and been very impressed by, KQ Dixie, a DX7 emulator on the iPad (£4!). Sounds fabulous - or rather, 6-op FM sounds fabulous - but it is, again, currently a poor option for organising patches. Great for auditioning them, but tortuous if you want to create your own banks.

I’ll be interested to hear what you think.
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Re: Calling any Patch Base experts -- question about modifying a TX7 library

Postby BillB » Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:44 pm

It appears you can also drag and drop in DEXED:

https://asb2m10.github.io/dexed/#cartridge-manager

I checked patch storage in Patchbase. Folders can be made, but all patches are stored in alphabetical order, and I can’t see any way to dump (or save to .SYX) an entire bank, just single sounds. So no obvious way to use it to organise new banks on its own.
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Re: Calling any Patch Base experts -- question about modifying a TX7 library

Postby Ben Asaro » Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:00 pm

Thanks, Bill!

I actually use Dexed to preview banks before I export to the TX7. This is good news, I will give it a shot and report back!
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Re: Calling any Patch Base experts -- question about modifying a TX7 library

Postby Ben Asaro » Tue Oct 23, 2018 1:36 pm

It’s taken several weeks but I am working on my next live piece/album pre production and finally had a chance to try using Dexed as a library editor.

Bad news is that there is Zero documentation out there for Dexed. Good news is that with a little poking around, Dexed is intuitive enough to suss out what to do.

How I was able to make a custom library:
1 Open Dexed and go to the Cartridge page
2 Open a Library
3 Select other Libraries and patches on the top half to preview a patch
4 Drag the patches you want to use down into your current Library
5 Save the new altered Library with a different name

In the Minus column, one thing to bear in mind is that if you drag a patch from one location to another within a Library, it copies that patch. So taking notes as you go is necessary if you want your patches in a specific order later because you will most likely need to re drag a couple of them down from the preview above when you have all of your patches selected.
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Re: Calling any Patch Base experts -- question about modifying a TX7 library

Postby Martin Walker » Tue Oct 23, 2018 2:54 pm

Thanks for that info Ben - without a manual, notes like these may be invaluable to someone else later on :thumbup:


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Re: Calling any Patch Base experts -- question about modifying a TX7 library

Postby Ben Asaro » Tue Oct 23, 2018 4:23 pm

Yes, I figured that this can help someone down the line!
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Re: Calling any Patch Base experts -- question about modifying a TX7 library

Postby BillB » Wed Oct 24, 2018 10:29 pm

Hi Ben

Have you checked out the Bank editor function in the latest version (3) of Patchbase? I think this would do what you are looking for. The TX7 editor now includes a bank editor.

https://coffeeshopped.com/patch-base-ma ... ting-banks
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Re: Calling any Patch Base experts -- question about modifying a TX7 library

Postby Ben Asaro » Thu Oct 25, 2018 11:09 pm

BillB wrote:Hi Ben

Have you checked out the Bank editor function in the latest version (3) of Patchbase? I think this would do what you are looking for. The TX7 editor now includes a bank editor.

https://coffeeshopped.com/patch-base-ma ... ting-banks
Awesome, thanks!!
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Re: Calling any Patch Base experts -- question about modifying a TX7 library

Postby Ben Asaro » Thu Oct 25, 2018 11:15 pm

Just had a play with Patch Base with my MOPHO editor. I didn’t know they did an update, so thanks for that BillB!

I really like the new look!
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