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Re: Analogue Solutions Generator Cv/Gate Sequencer

Postby Terrible.dee » Fri Nov 02, 2018 11:50 pm

Looks like a ton of fun,

Could you post its basic features in point form? Just so we know how this compares to other units and what makes it special?

Yes, I could google it myself but it would be nice to have that as part of the thread,

I think there is money in advanced CV sequencing, that goldmine has yet to be plundered, I know it could be my mind imposing "Phantom betterness" onto a preferred method, but I would swear on the Bible that CV sequenced material sounds, not just better than MIDI, but more "Alive" and vibrant.

Again, could all be in my head, but I have some of those EHX Crash Pads and Super Space Drums, along with the clockworks "sequencer" Clock Divider. I sampled the Clock Works triggers into my MPC 1000, and used its individual outs to trigger 4 different units,

My first reaction, was: "I can FEEL the lack of an infinitely variable voltage (Even though the variance would be microscopically small) I can FEEL the deadness of the "canned" sample triggers...

...Fully aware I may be trippin' balls, but it is what it is, I'll try it again today and see if I have the same reaction.

The one thing that makes me trust my gut on this, is that I had the SAME reaction the first time I played an Akai AX-80, It felt DEAD, I own DCO synths but this was different,

Recent autopsies have proved the AX-80 is in fact NOT an Analog synth, its sound generation is 100% digital, it was the world's first V.A synth, before that name even existed (Before you start arguing to defend your AX-80 you paid WAY to much for because of the Jexus demo, GO DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH, It's no longer debatable, the AX-80 IS NOT ANALOG...Sorry, and no, its not like a Juno or a Matrix 6, it's a unique design that is DIGITAL...the end)
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Re: Analogue Solutions Generator Cv/Gate Sequencer

Postby DavyP » Sat Nov 03, 2018 4:55 pm

I need some of the stuff you're on!!!! :D

As Requested:

Generator Features:


Three 16 Step Cv out

3 Gate out one of which can be "flipped" to play the gates that are not currently being used

Pattern Length can be changed quicky as well as the start and end point with the loop controls

Gate is set by 4 controls eg control 1 turns on gates 1,5,9,13 you can easily select all or which ever gates you want to turn on from these controls

A Voltage Generator/keypad this can be used to transpose the pattern manually or auto transpose 4 note changes.

It can be used to rest or start the sequence or for velocity or for pre-selected gate patterns or as a 6 note keyboard etc

Internal clock is an Analogue LFO the speed of which can be changed by cv, it can be clocked by external CV or by midi note

Freeze function that stops the gate progressing by pressing the voltage generator

One shot or loop mode

Various patch points for resets, daisy chaining, velocity etc

Although thats a bit of a wall of text the Sequencer really is intuitive and quick and easy to use :)
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Re: Analogue Solutions Generator Cv/Gate Sequencer

Postby DavyP » Sat Nov 03, 2018 9:35 pm

https://youtu.be/1q-FhWogDq8

Some more Polymath, this is pretty raw and uptempo

Sequenced it with the Generator and transposed with the Telemark keys while tweaking the sound
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Re: Analogue Solutions Generator Cv/Gate Sequencer

Postby DavyP » Sun Nov 04, 2018 1:03 pm

Generator Sequencer Workflow Demo

A sequence created from scratch, tweaked and recorded into Logic using smart tempo, upped the bpm added strings and hey presto a song...

I used a software piano as tuning reference but normally just guess the notes by singing doe ray me into myself :D

https://youtu.be/Qjqs2MjuKp8
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Re: Analogue Solutions Generator Cv/Gate Sequencer

Postby DavyP » Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:07 pm

https://youtu.be/qkc7_9PHDQ0

Binned the last Bladerunner video as I felt I could make it better and faster

So this time I did my normal workflow, tuned by ear and transposed live

So it's the Blade runner sequence made and played in 2 minutes and 30 seconds :)
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Re: Analogue Solutions Generator Cv/Gate Sequencer

Postby DavyP » Tue Nov 06, 2018 12:55 pm

https://youtu.be/2tKCzdEyN9k

2 Polymaths this time

1 Sequenced by a Generator

1 Played by moi :D
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Re: Analogue Solutions Generator Cv/Gate Sequencer

Postby DavyP » Tue Nov 06, 2018 8:04 pm

Productive day tune wise no so work wise :D

https://youtu.be/lEy3sopKQmo

2 x Generators, 2 x Polymath

Then played about with the loop in the mixer
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Re: Analogue Solutions Generator Cv/Gate Sequencer

Postby Martin Walker » Tue Nov 06, 2018 9:24 pm

DavyP wrote:Productive day tune wise no so work wise :D

https://youtu.be/lEy3sopKQmo

2 x Generators, 2 x Polymath

Then played about with the loop in the mixer

I'm still unsure about your kick sounds Davy - this Nyborg 24 Kick sounds rather 'cardboard boxy' to me, and has no real bottom end end again, leaving little foundation 'oomph' for your loop.

Love all the other sounds though! :thumbup:


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Re: Analogue Solutions Generator Cv/Gate Sequencer

Postby Eddy Deegan » Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:48 am

Martin Walker wrote:
DavyP wrote:Productive day tune wise no so work wise :D

https://youtu.be/lEy3sopKQmo

2 x Generators, 2 x Polymath

Then played about with the loop in the mixer

I'm still unsure about your kick sounds Davy - this Nyborg 24 Kick sounds rather 'cardboard boxy' to me, and has no real bottom end end again, leaving little foundation 'oomph' for your loop.

Love all the other sounds though! :thumbup:
Martin

+1 ... That creamy synth bass is gorgeous. As you have a QU desk, if you can't find a kick with some beefier low-end at source, there's a good chance that applying some suitable EQ to boost those boomier low frequencies will bring out the 'thud' a treat - I've used the EQ on my QU16 now and again to imbue a sense of occasion to some nice sounds that would otherwise be a little lacking in presence (though my preference is, if possible, to do it at source).
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Re: Analogue Solutions Generator Cv/Gate Sequencer

Postby DavyP » Wed Nov 07, 2018 5:41 am

Martin Walker wrote:
DavyP wrote:Productive day tune wise no so work wise :D

https://youtu.be/lEy3sopKQmo

2 x Generators, 2 x Polymath

Then played about with the loop in the mixer

I'm still unsure about your kick sounds Davy - this Nyborg 24 Kick sounds rather 'cardboard boxy' to me, and has no real bottom end end again, leaving little foundation 'oomph' for your loop.

Love all the other sounds though! :thumbup:

I agree, going to go back to my Telemark kick as I'm not really happy with the current kick :) :thumbup:


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Re: Analogue Solutions Generator Cv/Gate Sequencer

Postby DavyP » Wed Nov 07, 2018 5:43 am

Eddy Deegan wrote:
Martin Walker wrote:
DavyP wrote:Productive day tune wise no so work wise :D

https://youtu.be/lEy3sopKQmo

2 x Generators, 2 x Polymath

Then played about with the loop in the mixer

I'm still unsure about your kick sounds Davy - this Nyborg 24 Kick sounds rather 'cardboard boxy' to me, and has no real bottom end end again, leaving little foundation 'oomph' for your loop.

Love all the other sounds though! :thumbup:
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+1 ... That creamy synth bass is gorgeous. As you have a QU desk, if you can't find a kick with some beefier low-end at source, there's a good chance that applying some suitable EQ to boost those boomier low frequencies will bring out the 'thud' a treat - I've used the EQ on my QU16 now and again to imbue a sense of occasion to some nice sounds that would otherwise be a little lacking in presence (though my preference is, if possible, to do it at source).

I think for the kick I'm going to do it as you suggest and go back to source as I have not been happy with it for a while. I'll look into it today and see what I can come up with :)

The funny thing is I have a kick on the other Nyborg at the moment thats too boomy so I've hit both ends of the spectrum :D

Anyway thanks for listening Martin and Eddie, and thanks also for steering me into focusing on sorting my wayward kick :thumbup:
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Re: Analogue Solutions Generator Cv/Gate Sequencer

Postby DavyP » Wed Nov 07, 2018 8:04 am

https://soundcloud.com/user-314656760/kick

Changed sounds around, so the Nyborg is now doing hats and the Telemark the kick, still need to do a few more tweaks but think it's better sounding so far
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Re: Analogue Solutions Generator Cv/Gate Sequencer

Postby Martin Walker » Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:04 pm

It is sounding better balanced Davy, but IMO still needs more bottom end on that kick - try some EQ on it.

Ideally you need to feel the kick in your chest ;)


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Re: Analogue Solutions Generator Cv/Gate Sequencer

Postby DavyP » Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:00 pm

Martin Walker wrote:It is sounding better balanced Davy, but IMO still needs more bottom end on that kick - try some EQ on it.

Ideally you need to feel the kick in your chest ;)


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I'll look at it again tonight :) :thumbup:
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Re: Analogue Solutions Generator Cv/Gate Sequencer

Postby DavyP » Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:00 pm

This is a strange little tune but a lot of thought went into the note structure. I wanted as much as possible to not have notes overlap so made careful gate choice, on top of this I used the intensity feature of the generator along with a a slow lfo that I timed to trigger the second generator roughly every other 16 steps making a change to the gate pattern and causing the speeding up of the arp sound of the second polymath.

The Polymaths are playing paraphonic chords, the first one designed to sound almost like a voice.

The Fuse box is playing an Arp again designed to complement the other gates and overlap as little as possible.

So whilst its a weird song it was planned out to some degree!

https://youtu.be/9V_nhca0Ph4
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Re: Analogue Solutions Generator Cv/Gate Sequencer

Postby DavyP » Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:02 pm

I did a video to show how simple and quick it is to change the Generator gate pattern

4 Basslines, 4 Twists of a knob

https://youtu.be/HGAeMoeo38c
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Re: Analogue Solutions Generator Cv/Gate Sequencer

Postby DavyP » Thu Nov 08, 2018 6:58 pm

https://youtu.be/dc0YxP0YWRY

Did some more Polymath with the Generator

Really love the Polymath, can't stop playing about with it :0
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Re: Analogue Solutions Generator Cv/Gate Sequencer

Postby DavyP » Fri Nov 09, 2018 2:40 pm

https://youtu.be/70kYH0Q39bM

This is a moody piece I did based around the theme of thew Hindeburg disaster

Bass is live played Leipzig, Generator is sequencing the Polymath Arp

Really pleased how it turned out.
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Re: Analogue Solutions Generator Cv/Gate Sequencer

Postby Martin Walker » Fri Nov 09, 2018 3:52 pm

Now that kick's more like it Davy! 8-) :thumbup:

Love the 'breathing' quality of this mix too :clap:

My favourite section is from 2:32 onwards, when it really locks into a slow groove.

This one's a keeper! :ugeek:


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Re: Analogue Solutions Generator Cv/Gate Sequencer

Postby DavyP » Fri Nov 09, 2018 6:48 pm

Martin Walker wrote:Now that kick's more like it Davy! 8-) :thumbup:

Love the 'breathing' quality of this mix too :clap:

My favourite section is from 2:32 onwards, when it really locks into a slow groove.

This one's a keeper! :ugeek:


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Thanks Martin

I wanted to sit down and come up with something complete as opposed to a concept or demo which I use to practice or try out ideas and learn from. I felt it all fell into place in that song, I kept it minimal and raw, I am more than happy with how it turned out :thumbup:

And yeah I finally sort the unruly kick, it can be tricky as I use synths with no presets/memory recall so every sound is done from scratch so can occasionally be hit or miss, but it's a really satisfying way to make music. Kind of like Denis Waterman in Little Britain :D "I'm going to write the toon, sing the toon......"
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