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New Moog Polysynth!

Postby desmond » Mon Oct 01, 2018 1:40 pm

The "Moog One"

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http://cdm.link/2018/10/moog-one-polysynth/
https://www.sweetwater.com/insync/first-look-moog-one/

Not cheap... but pretty sure this one won't have minikeys... :bouncy:

And yes, 61-keys, velocity & aftertouch... looks like a modern MemoryMoog....

(So if anyone was wondering about what to get me for Christmas...)
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Re: New Moog Polysynth!

Postby Hugh Robjohns » Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:07 pm

Ooohhh! :ugeek: :D
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Re: New Moog Polysynth!

Postby MarkOne » Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:15 pm

What Hugh said!
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Re: New Moog Polysynth!

Postby Hugh Robjohns » Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:26 pm

I'll say it now, though, just to get it out of the way: Shame they didn't add poly-aftertouch... :(
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Re: New Moog Polysynth!

Postby Stickman0_3 » Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:30 pm

Any pictures of the synth? As Desmond said - could this be a modern day Memorymoog? I always liked the look of the Memorymoog.
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Re: New Moog Polysynth!

Postby desmond » Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:37 pm

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Advanced sound engine architecture

Available in 8- and 16-voice versions, Moog One can simultaneously articulate eight or 16 voices, depending on the configuration of your instrument. The Moog One polyphonic sound engine is built upon the most advanced architecture ever conceived for a Moog synthesizer. Per voice, Moog One features three state-of-the-art analog voltage-controlled oscillators (VCOs), two independent analog filters (a Variable State filter and the famous Moog Ladder Filter) that can be run in series or parallel, a dual-source variable analog noise generator, an analog mixer with external audio input, four LFOs, and three envelope generators. You can split or layer the three timbres — each with its own sequencer, arpeggiator, and onboard effects library — across the premium 61-note Fatar keyboard with velocity and aftertouch.

Premium effects

Moog One offers a growing library of programmable per-synth and master bus effects, including chorus, delay, phase, bit reduction, vocoding, and a suite of premium Eventide reverbs such as Blackhole, Shimmer, Plate, PreRoom, and Hall. Effects can be applied as Synth Effects and Master Bus Effects. Synth Effects are applied to individual timbral layers, while Master Bus Effects can be accessed via sends from all three synthesizers. Though its onboard effects are digital, the Moog One audio path is completely analog when all the effects are true bypassed.

Creativity without constraint

Presets can be shared with an unlimited number of Performance Sets, allowing quick access to desired presets for each live gig, studio date, and composing session. Preserving more than just presets, User Spaces save global behaviors, MIDI settings, knob behaviors, port and pedal configurations, and even the LED brightness level of your working environment. This means that a USB thumb drive in your pocket can temporarily make any Moog One in the world your personal instrument.


Three polysynths in one

Moog One is not only polyphonic; it's tri-timbral (3-part multitimbral) — that is, capable of playing up to three individual Synths simultaneously — split, layered, or zoned across the keyboard — all from within a single preset. With each Synth capable of accessing its own sound parameters, note range, arpeggiator, and sequencer, you can create rich ensemble performances and deeply layered, evolving soundscapes.

Essentially three independently addressable polysynths in one, the Moog One tri-timbral architecture lets you easily assign, split, layer, and stack voices with up to 48 oscillators in Unison mode. What's more, each synthesizer is furnished with its own full-featured step sequencer, arpeggiator, and effects processor. The Panel Focus module simplifies and streamlines the complexities of multitimbral synthesis. Choosing a Synth for panel focus switches control of the Moog One front panel knobs and buttons to the selected Synth layer. You can also select multiple Synth layers concurrently to simultaneously tweak multiple Synths.

Cutting-edge triangle/saw and square/pulse oscillators

Each Moog One voice is driven by three newly designed analog VCOs. Each oscillator outputs a user-defined mix of the selectable triangle/sawtooth wave, plus a variable-width pulse wave. Unlike with traditional oscillator designs, you can shape and modulate the rise/fall time of the triangle wave, and the reset phase of the sawtooth wave, to build classic analog tones that are uniquely rich and complex.

Blending the tri/saw and square/pulse waves together opens the harmonic floodgates, resulting in waveform complexity not commonly associated with analog synthesis. The Moog One oscillator section is also equipped with waveform modulation, hard sync, ring modulation, and FM (Frequency Modulation) for virtually unlimited analog sound generation.

Dual-source noise generator

Each Moog One voice has access to an advanced dual-source analog noise generator that lets you select, mix, and dynamically articulate different noise colorations (white, red, and purple) via its dedicated noise envelope generator. This unique module is a potent tool for adding percussive attack, breathiness, or full-spectrum impact to a sound.

Flexible analog mixer
The Moog One mixer provides volume controls and filter routing for each oscillator, noise generator, ring modulator, and external audio input, allowing sound sources to be shaped by using filters independently or in combination.

Moog Ladder and State Variable filters
Moog One features two kinds of analog filters – a newly designed multimode State Variable filter for surgical precision and the legendary Moog Ladder filter with selectable 1-, 2-, 3-, and 4-pole lowpass/highpass modes. Between them, the two filters can process sounds — individually or together, in series or in parallel — to deliver a colorful spectrum of vintage, contemporary, and futuristic filter sounds.

Three assignable envelopes
The envelope generator (EG) is a time-honored tool for dynamic sound shaping. There are three Moog One assignable DAHDSR (Delay, Attack, Hold, Decay, Sustain, Release) EGs that go way beyond traditional ADHR envelopes in terms of flexibility. In addition to looping, synchronization, and time-scaling capabilities, the character of each of these envelopes can be easily molded by per-stage envelope curves.

Low-frequency oscillators
The LFO (low-frequency oscillator) is another classic synthesis tool for creating cyclical motion in analog synthesis. Moog One is spec'd with four wide-range LFOs that are assignable to nearly any destination. With capabilities that include MIDI synchronization and clock divisions, start delay time, number of repeats per instance, fade-in and -out times, and much more, these LFOs far surpass the traditional LFO's comparatively limited functionality. Using the Variation parameter, you can smoothly morph between sine and triangle, square and pulse, sawtooth and ramp, or sample and hold and noise waveshapes.

Premium Fatar keyboard and X/Y pad

The enhanced Left-Hand Controller (LHC) features pitch-bend and mod wheels made of high-quality milled aluminum and, beside them, a fully assignable, pressure-sensitive, 3-axis X/Y pad that provides additional emotive expression and continuously variable control.



Moog One Analog Synthesizer Features:
8- or 16-voice polyphony
3 VCOs per voice with waveshape mixing and OLED displays
Unison mode (up to 48 oscillators on the 16-voice instrument)
2 filters per voice with filter mixing (2 multimode State Variable filters that function as a single filter, and a classic lowpass/highpass Moog Ladder filter)
3 DAHDSR envelopes per voice with user-definable curves
3-part multitimbrality
Separate sequencer and arpeggiator per timbre
Chord memory
Dual-source noise generator with dedicated envelope
Mixer with external audio input
Ring modulation with selectable routing
Oscillator FM and hard sync with selectable routing
4 assignable LFOs
Premium 61-note Fatar TP-8S keybed with velocity and aftertouch
Assignable pressure-sensitive X/Y pad
Digital Effects (Synth and Master Bus)
Eventide reverbs
Selectable glide types
USB and DIN MIDI
Save, categorize, and recall tens of thousands of presets
Create Performance Sets that make up to 64 presets accessible at the push of a button
2 x ¼" stereo headphone outputs
2 pairs of assignable ¼" outputs (supports TRS and TS)
4 x ¼" hardware inserts (TRS)
1 x ¼" external audio input (line-level)
1 XLR + ¼" TRS combo external audio input with trim knob
9 assignable CV/GATE I/O (5-in/4-out)
USB drive support for system and preset backup
LAN port for future expansion


They've updated their site with a history of their polyphonic synths...
https://www.moogmusic.com


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Re: New Moog Polysynth!

Postby Stickman0_3 » Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:43 pm

Woah! That looks tasty
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Re: New Moog Polysynth!

Postby Luke W » Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:55 pm

Wow, that looks like an absolute monster.
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Re: New Moog Polysynth!

Postby IAA » Mon Oct 01, 2018 3:09 pm

Oh nooooo, calculator is already out. I thought the reissue model D had sorted my synth lust - just about to show my wife those pcs Desmond so kindly posted. - need another stand too probably and I wonder if I’ve inputs on my interface ..... :bouncy:
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Re: New Moog Polysynth!

Postby redlester » Mon Oct 01, 2018 3:13 pm

I might have to wait for the Behringer Uno. :smirk:
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Re: New Moog Polysynth!

Postby Dave B » Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:26 pm

Eight Grand !!!??????

I was baulking at the cost of the Prophet X and the Quantum, but I could have both and still have change.

Look, I'm a daft numpty with more money than sense when it comes to kit, but even I'm not that ludicrous. It looks lovely and all and I'm sure it will sound lush, but I'm a bit sick of Moog expecting us to pay _waaaaayyyy_ over the odds for the name. They're taking the yellow stuff here.

(and I wonder how long it will last given the issues with their penny pinching attitude to quality control)

If someone wants to buy me one fine. But I don't see me going for it. I'm a bit mad, but I'm not stupid.
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Re: New Moog Polysynth!

Postby Dave B » Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:28 pm

Lol - just double checked the back panel. This can't be right - 8k for a premium product and it has a wall wart?

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Re: New Moog Polysynth!

Postby Hugh Robjohns » Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:30 pm

You can almost read Gordon's review now, can't you... :lol: Although at least it's a locking 4-pin XLR rather than a flimsy coaxial job.

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Re: New Moog Polysynth!

Postby Stickman0_3 » Mon Oct 01, 2018 5:09 pm

Looking at that price, I think I'll stick with my dream of buying the Dave Smith Prophet 12 desktop.
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Re: New Moog Polysynth!

Postby The Elf » Mon Oct 01, 2018 10:41 pm

I was beginning to salivate... then I saw that power connector. Facepalm. Something has gone very wrong when a synth of this price doesn't have an internal PSU. :( :cry:

No synth of that price with an external PSU is coming anywhere near me. One of my mates has twice turned up for rehearsals having forgotten the PSU for his new MiniMoog - that isn't going to happen to me. Sorry Moog.

Someone please tell me that it's simply a power connector - at least then a Euro socket retrofit might be possible?
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Re: New Moog Polysynth!

Postby Hugh Robjohns » Mon Oct 01, 2018 10:56 pm

A 4-pin XLR is not mains-rated, so it must be a DC (or low-voltage AC) input connector. Sorry, Elf.

I agree that it's an odd design decision. Especially when they got it right with the Sub(sequent)37.

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Re: New Moog Polysynth!

Postby desmond » Tue Oct 02, 2018 12:12 am

Hugh Robjohns wrote:A 4-pin XLR is not mains-rated, so it must be a DC (or low-voltage AC) input connector.

The pic says "19V DC".

Hugh Robjohns wrote:I agree that it's an odd design decision. Especially when they got it right with the Sub(sequent)37.

You never know, these might be early pics of a pre-production model... things may change in the actual shipping units, perhaps..?
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Re: New Moog Polysynth!

Postby BobTheDog » Tue Oct 02, 2018 7:29 am

Guys I think you are overreacting, the 8 voice is “only” 6 grand and I bet Moog will offer an upgrade for a reasonable price, say another 4 grand or so.

So what if you can buy a car for that sort of money.

I will carry on lusting after a Pro X, a more reasonable priced expensive synth I can’t afford at the moment.
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Re: New Moog Polysynth!

Postby Wintersun Project » Tue Oct 02, 2018 8:47 am

Its a monster of a synth, but in these days of austerity and a music industry in ruins financially speaking for the artist, it really is a bespoke product for a bespoke market imo.
Whereas Uli Behringer is making synths that anyone can afford, which is great for young musicians who have only ever been able to press their faces up against the shop window and drool up until now.
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Re: New Moog Polysynth!

Postby The Elf » Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:26 am

desmond wrote:You never know, these might be early pics of a pre-production model... things may change in the actual shipping units, perhaps..?
I would love to think that you're correct. Alternatively, I would also love to think that Moog will read this and come to their senses.

As I often find myself saying to Moog representatives these days... Bob would not have allowed it.
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