You are here

MIDI 2.0!?

Page 2 of 2

Re: MIDI 2.0!?

PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:58 pm
by desmond
No they needed to be 8ndependant, you’re not always connecting the same devices bidirectionally. Or else you’d need breakout cables, but it would be a confusing mess...

Re: MIDI 2.0!?

PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:16 pm
by The Elf
desmond wrote:No they needed to be 8ndependant, you’re not always connecting the same devices bidirectionally. Or else you’d need breakout cables, but it would be a confusing mess...
A receiving instrument that didn't want to receive would just ignore the incoming stream. Works for USB!

Re: MIDI 2.0!?

PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:30 pm
by Dave B
Dave Smith always pushed for midi to be a 'star' topology, but the Roland bods kept pushing back that they wanted the 'thru'. They got their way which is why we have all these din cables everywhere.

One of the interesting thins about midi over usb is that it finally brings the concept back to Dave's original idea - a star topology.

Re: MIDI 2.0!?

PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 3:19 pm
by Folderol
When the MIDI spec. was set there was no such thing as USB. Also the instrument manufacturers were thinking in terms of controllers direct to synths without any form of hub - for which separate connectors make sense. Computers were expensive, unreliable and barely entered into their thoughts. Dave Smith was significantly ahead of his time in that respect.

Re: MIDI 2.0!?

PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 4:55 pm
by The Elf
They didn't need to time travel to see the benefit of a bi-directional cable. MIDI was based on RS232, which was itself bi-directional. The pins were sitting there waiting to be used. It could have solved us all this two-cable mess we ended up in - and the difference between 'in' and 'out' seems to baffle many people - myself included on occasions! :lol:

Atari used the spare pins as a MIDI Thru on the Atari ST, which caused a lot of trouble, since by then many cables had the spare pins shorted to avoid confusion over which pins were the correct ones! The number of times I saw that one...

All water under the bridge and out to sea, though. Let's hope the backwards compatibility works as seamlessly as it always does... ;) :beamup: