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Wall mounting your keyboards?

Postby Tomás Mulcahy » Fri May 31, 2019 8:43 am

Hi folks,

Does anyone know where in Europe you can buy the wall mounting keyboard racks that music shops use? Like these:

https://www.stringswing.com/product/cck ... board-rack

Can get them from String Swing but it's not cheap and delivery is slow. I have them in my own studio (bought used on Ebay) and they're very sturdy, taking up a lot less space than a regular keyboard stand. Plus it looks cool, like a shop lol!
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Re: Wall mounting your keyboards?

Postby Eddy Deegan » Fri May 31, 2019 10:54 am

Ha! This brings back memories!

Some time ago I was desperately looking for something like this. I've not looked recently but in the end I drew a blank and ended up using a triple A-frame floor standing one, three double-tier floor standing ones and some adjustable wall-mounted shelving (which works for storage but not for playing).

Sorry this doesn't help with the original query, but it's the first time I've seen anyone else looking for the same thing. Thinking about it, I've been frustrated with the lack of space available lately and having wall mounted supports would make a big difference so I think it may be time to resume the search myself.

I'm tempted by the US link you posted to be honest, but I would certainly have to drill extra holes at the top - there's no way I'd trust some of my synths to a single anchor-point being pulled against by the weight of the board as shown in the photos :o

Why oh why aren't products like this more common?! Maybe I answered my own question there :(
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Re: Wall mounting your keyboards?

Postby Hugh Robjohns » Fri May 31, 2019 11:08 am

Hmmm... Perhaps we should organise a group buy of our own custom design of wall-mounting keyboard 'hangers' made in the UK... I'd be up for at least a couple of sets and I'm sure there's enough expertise amongst the forum members to design something acceptable to all and get it fabricated.

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Re: Wall mounting your keyboards?

Postby Eddy Deegan » Fri May 31, 2019 11:11 am

Hugh Robjohns wrote:Hmmm... Perhaps we should organise a group buy of our own custom design of wall-mounting keyboard 'hangers' made in the UK... I'd be up for at least a couple of sets and I'm sure there's enough expertise amongst the forum members to design something acceptable to all and get it fabricated.

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That would be fantastic and if it's possible then I'm very much in. I'd buy at least a dozen pairs of them :thumbup:

I even considered making my own out of hardwood but they would be too bulky; really it's a job for metal and I'm not a metalworker by any stretch of the imagination.

Another possibility might be some custom angled inserts for the wall-mounted rails you can get in most DIY shops.
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Re: Wall mounting your keyboards?

Postby fruitcake » Fri May 31, 2019 11:28 am

I noticed they had a grid wall and slatwall option on the hangers. That’s a very common retail display system in the US. I would think they’d be available in the UK. It would have a few benefits. You basically attach a panel to your wall and the hangers go wherever you need them. It would spread the load over a larger area if you’re not able to drill into a wall stud at the proper spot. And spacing is very adjustable if your needs change.
I may look into that myself. I’m working on converting storage into a studio, trying to figure out how to fit everything.

As an aside. Does anyone use 90 degrees patch cords on their gear? I’ve always used straight ones for some reason. They stick out quite far.
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Re: Wall mounting your keyboards?

Postby Dave B » Fri May 31, 2019 11:33 am

Go to Homebase / B&Q and get the strips that you attach to the wall and the different length arms that stick out. I used those for years and a I know of studios that still have them. Cheap as chips. Originally designed for shelves iirc, but happily take a few keyboards up a wall.
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Re: Wall mounting your keyboards?

Postby Eddy Deegan » Fri May 31, 2019 11:41 am

Dave B wrote:Go to Homebase / B&Q and get the strips that you attach to the wall and the different length arms that stick out. I used those for years and a I know of studios that still have them. Cheap as chips. Originally designed for shelves iirc, but happily take a few keyboards up a wall.

I have some myself and linked some above ...

Eddy Deegan wrote:Another possibility might be some custom angled inserts for the wall-mounted rails you can get in most DIY shops.

... but they're not angled. I want my synths at about a 30 degree tilt downwards so I can see and play them properly all the way up the wall :tongue:
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Re: Wall mounting your keyboards?

Postby Hugh Robjohns » Fri May 31, 2019 11:50 am

fruitcake wrote:Does anyone use 90 degrees patch cords on their gear?

Yes, lots of them for gear that has to be placed close to a wall -- for the obvious reason you mention.

I also use them for gear with cables dropping to the floor from a height because the weight of the cable from the end of a straight jack plug actually exerts quite a lot of leverage on the tip of the plug which potentially distorts and weakens the spring contacts in the socket. A 90-degree plug minimises the leverage effect.

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Re: Wall mounting your keyboards?

Postby blinddrew » Fri May 31, 2019 12:38 pm

Eddy Deegan wrote:... but they're not angled. I want my synths at about a 30 degree tilt downwards so I can see and play them properly all the way up the wall :tongue:
I've never checked here but you used to be able to buy angled or adjustable ones in Holland - I helped fit the shop out with them when I worked in Amsterdam. :)
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Re: Wall mounting your keyboards?

Postby Eddy Deegan » Fri May 31, 2019 12:39 pm

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Eddy Deegan wrote:... but they're not angled. I want my synths at about a 30 degree tilt downwards so I can see and play them properly all the way up the wall :tongue:
I've never checked here but you used to be able to buy angled or adjustable ones in Holland - I helped fit the shop out with them when I worked in Amsterdam. :)

I'm in Amsterdam all next week ... hmmm ... :-)
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Re: Wall mounting your keyboards?

Postby blinddrew » Fri May 31, 2019 12:50 pm

Well I got them from a small hardware shop in VanWoustraat - but it was, ahem, a while ago now! Probably not the best use of your baggage weight allowance either... ;)

Somewhat amazingly I can find Australian and American sellers on google but not from the UK.

Something like this might do the job though: https://www.amazon.co.uk/YUYUE21-thick- ... 76&sr=1-21
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Re: Wall mounting your keyboards?

Postby BillB » Fri May 31, 2019 3:30 pm

Most of my keyboard racking is standard dual-tier plus 1 triple-tier.
blinddrew wrote:Something like this might do the job though: https://www.amazon.co.uk/YUYUE21-thick- ... 76&sr=1-21

That's pretty much what I did to mount my (fairly lightweight) SH-201 above the triple-tier rack:

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The adjustable brackets were 'fixed' at the right angle by placing just the right sized wooden block:

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As there is no nice bracket at the bottom to to stop the keyboard sliding off, I then had to improvise by bolting on an angle bracket (with sticky-back foam to prevent scratching):

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Elsewhere I have used ordinary shelving brackets with angled fillers made from corrugated cardboard and gaffer tape, and end stops from quarter-section dowel and gaffer tape:

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Re: Wall mounting your keyboards?

Postby Jumpeyspyder » Fri May 31, 2019 3:44 pm

I have angled slot brackets for a couple of synths
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/201464263898

I had to add a little corner bracket to the ends to prevent anything sliding off (similar to one in BillBs picture)
I will post a pic later this evening when I get a chance
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Re: Wall mounting your keyboards?

Postby Tomás Mulcahy » Fri May 31, 2019 10:53 pm

Wow! Very nice suggestions. I'll post photos when my setup is finished. I've only put up two light keyboards so far. I need better screws to put an Casio FZ-1(17.5kg) and an Ensoniq ESQ-1 (15kg) up on the wall. The screws will go in to the wood uprights of the stud partition.
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Re: Wall mounting your keyboards?

Postby Eddy Deegan » Fri May 31, 2019 11:39 pm

Good food for thought all round. I'm going to mull it over, as glancing around here I could really do with a workable solution even if it involves a little DIY.

Those adjustable shelf brackets look a very useful starting point for reference, thanks Drew.

Now if only someone would productise an adjustable synth rack solution with built-in patch points for audio and MIDI along with a power distribution option ... :D
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Re: Wall mounting your keyboards?

Postby Forum Admin » Sat Jun 01, 2019 11:56 am

If you've got space, you could build your own version of these slide-out shelves?

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Re: Wall mounting your keyboards?

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Re: Wall mounting your keyboards?

Postby Hugh Robjohns » Sat Jun 01, 2019 12:00 pm

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Re: Wall mounting your keyboards?

Postby Forum Admin » Sat Jun 01, 2019 12:05 pm

Forum Admin wrote:
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The image actually is taken from an October 2004 SOS Readerzone article on a chap called Philip Taysom (sadly, I believe he sold off most of his collection of synths).

Worth a read though:
https://www.soundonsound.com/people/readerzone-philip-taysom-synthfest
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