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Re: First Buchla module arrived yesterday...

Postby Folderol » Mon Aug 05, 2019 9:17 am

Martin Walker wrote:
Arpangel wrote:...came up with a great rhythm track on the Easel yesterday, record button was pushed.

That last phrase changes your reply from interesting to a fist-pumping moment :thumbup:

If only we all had the record button pushed whenever something good came along :beamup:


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This!
So many times :(
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Re: First Buchla module arrived yesterday...

Postby Arpangel » Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:45 am

This whole Buchla thing is a steep learning curve, It turns out that a module I bought isn't good to use with my system, it can damage things if used in the wrong way, which is difficult to avoid in my case. So money wasted :(
Buchla and it's clones assume a certain knowledge, and aren't so friendly as Eurorack.
I've learnt my lesson and will be sticking to Buchla E Series modules from now on.
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Re: First Buchla module arrived yesterday...

Postby Folderol » Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:41 pm

Sorry to hear that. It's always disappointing when a bit of kit doesn't live up to expectations - disregarding the finances.
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Re: First Buchla module arrived yesterday...

Postby Martin Walker » Thu Aug 08, 2019 1:18 pm

Oh poo!! :thumbdown:
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Re: First Buchla module arrived yesterday...

Postby Arpangel » Fri Aug 09, 2019 9:55 am

Martin Walker wrote:Oh poo!! :thumbdown:

Yes, in no uncertain terms. It turns out you can't mix some of older 200 series modules or some clones with the later E series. They put out negative voltages which can be damaging to E modules.
This whole scene is extremely nerdy, and it's just a given that you're some sort of electronics wizard too. My advice to anyone getting into Buchla is always stick to genuine Buchla modules, and cases, and don't stray into the dark world of clones, unless you really do know what you're up to.
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Re: First Buchla module arrived yesterday...

Postby Hugh Robjohns » Fri Aug 09, 2019 12:21 pm

Arpangel wrote:This whole scene is extremely nerdy, and it's just a given that you're some sort of electronics wizard too.

Yep... I think that's why they invented all-in-one synths!

On the upside, for every module I/O interface issue, there will be someone making another module that can sort out the interface issue!

So there will be a voltage translation module available somewhere than can convert bipolar control voltages into single-sided ones. You just then need to remember to plug via that converter when patching that module!

But I do agree that it is rather sad and frustrating that there are several different control voltage and gate signal 'standards' to complicate module choice and use so unnecessarily.

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Re: First Buchla module arrived yesterday...

Postby Martin Walker » Sat Aug 10, 2019 12:30 am

Hugh Robjohns wrote:But I do agree that it is rather sad and frustrating that there are several different control voltage and gate signal 'standards' to complicate module choice and use so unnecessarily.

Especially when a single manufacturer like Buchla releases modules that aren't even compatible with their stablemates :headbang:


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Re: First Buchla module arrived yesterday...

Postby Arpangel » Sun Aug 11, 2019 8:21 am

Martin Walker wrote:
Hugh Robjohns wrote:But I do agree that it is rather sad and frustrating that there are several different control voltage and gate signal 'standards' to complicate module choice and use so unnecessarily.

Especially when a single manufacturer like Buchla releases modules that aren't even compatible with their stablemates :headbang:


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I think it's a matter of no backwards compatibility, if you use all, current, E Series modules you'll be fine. The E series contain a lot of digital electronics, which I think is easily damaged by the earlier analogue modules.
Another problem is the use of "clone" modules, they don't always adhere to Buchla standards, and people buy them because they offer cheaper solutions, but then find out they aern't compatible.........like me!
I bought an extension boat for my Easel, from Samomodular, it's absolutely fine, and a fraction of the cost of a Buchla, but I'm not buying anymore third party modules or clones.
I don't want to have to remember not to do certain things, modular is hugely confusing and time consuming as it is.
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Re: First Buchla module arrived yesterday...

Postby Arpangel » Sat Aug 17, 2019 2:49 pm

Had to use Buchla support, and I have to say, it's excellent, got a reply within 24 hours, and they were friendly and very helpful. It's still obviously a nice personal service, not like the email only corporates which take days to reply.
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Re: First Buchla module arrived yesterday...

Postby Martin Walker » Sat Aug 17, 2019 4:57 pm

Well that sounds encouraging!

Did they have any solution for your waveform polarity problem though? (they must have been asked this before).


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Re: First Buchla module arrived yesterday...

Postby Arpangel » Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:04 am

Martin Walker wrote:Well that sounds encouraging!

Did they have any solution for your waveform polarity problem though? (they must have been asked this before).


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That's a dodgy one Martin, as all of these clone modules aern't made by Buchla, so they have no duty of support. The negative wave issue is simple, it's a no-no, I'm selling the module. I could go to the trouble of modifying it, but I really haven't got the knowledge or skill.
I had to contact Buchla as I've bought a Twisted Waveform Genertaor, and the Remote Enable light is very confusing, but they cleared that up for me.
The amazing thing about Buchla E series modules is that some have the ability to store the last knob settings, and the preset manager, if you have one, takes it a step further, you can store whole patches.
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