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Kurzweil PC4

Postby The Elf » Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:47 am

http://kurzweil.com/product/pc4/overview/

No un-weighted version, so it's not for me, but looks like a nice incremental of the VAST line. The price is pretty good too.

External PSU - et tu Brute? Seriously?
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Re: Kurzweil PC4

Postby Wonks » Wed Oct 02, 2019 10:18 am

You can see where the speakers go when the casing's used for another model.
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Re: Kurzweil PC4

Postby Zukan » Wed Oct 02, 2019 10:56 am

Those that gig are gonna love that external psu.
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Re: Kurzweil PC4

Postby Dave B » Wed Oct 02, 2019 11:24 am

Yes - it is certainly designed to be the 'little brother' of the range - despite having amazingly droolworthy specs - when compared to the Forte series. The case is plastic so it's light, but may not take much of a battering. I don't think that the keybed is as good as the Forte. And it has an external PSU which is annoying.

But it looks like they've ported the KB3 engine over now so you get 256 voice polyphony and only drop about 90-something to run the organ sim. That's about 30 more than I can get on my Forte. And it has _proper_ inputs this time - hallelujah! I love proper inputs!

My Forte has done sterling work over the last few years that I've had it and now the baby of the range is slightly ahead in some functionality. Which means that in a couple more years, there will be a Forte 2 coming - metal case, psu, all the goodies of the pc4 ... what's not to like?

Apparently, there will be a PC4 at Synthfest. Whilst I'm not looking to buy at the moment, I will give it quite a good thrashing to see what it's like. If it's as good as I think it is, you may need a crowbar to get me from it..

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Re: Kurzweil PC4

Postby N i g e l » Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:30 pm

The Elf wrote:http://kurzweil.com/product/pc4/overview/

External PSU - et tu Brute? Seriously?

That really is a ludicrous, there must be so much empty space in that casing, plenty for PSU with a rear panel IEC socket/fuse/switch
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Re: Kurzweil PC4

Postby Dave B » Mon Oct 07, 2019 3:06 pm

Played one of these at SynthFest. Very nice actually. I also spoke to the Sound Technology guys about it. The plastic case thing is a lose-lose thing for them : Kurz had lots of complaints that the previous models weighed a ton. And now people are moaning about the flimsiness of a plastic case. Lol. Psu is a double whammy - it doesn’t even had an iec lead into the wall wart : it’s a figure 8 one. Boo. But it sounds and feels great to play - the keyboard action felt pretty similar to the Forte one. And the inputs are double - real 1/4” jacks and a 3.5mm as well. Yay.

So all in all I’d say that overall it’s a good bit of kit. Not enough for me to ditch my Forte, but enough to make me narked that mine is lacking good features. I just hope it sells.

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Re: Kurzweil PC4

Postby The Elf » Mon Oct 07, 2019 3:56 pm

I thought the case felt very similar to my old Yamaha DJX - i.e. I doubt the corners would survive even a mild case of vertical concussion.
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Re: Kurzweil PC4

Postby Eddy Deegan » Mon Oct 07, 2019 4:04 pm

The Elf wrote:I thought the case felt very similar to my old Yamaha DJX - i.e. I doubt the corners would survive even a mild case of vertical concussion.

Surely that's of little concern to an Elf? :angel:
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Re: Kurzweil PC4

Postby kingy75 » Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:01 am

So is the keybed the same as the PC3K8? Or is it a different action?
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Re: Kurzweil PC4

Postby Dave B » Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:01 am

Technically, it's a different model of keybed to the PC3k8. But I played one alongside the Forte (which is similar if not the same) and I noticed no real difference.

Bear in mind, I'm not a weighted keys aficionado .. I just like playing them! :)
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Re: Kurzweil PC4

Postby DanR » Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:52 am

Would be good to see 61 and 76 versions like Yamaha MODX or Roland FA series.
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Re: Kurzweil PC4

Postby Fleer » Wed Jul 08, 2020 3:48 am

N i g e l wrote:
The Elf wrote:http://kurzweil.com/product/pc4/overview/

External PSU - et tu Brute? Seriously?

That really is a ludicrous, there must be so much empty space in that casing, plenty for PSU with a rear panel IEC socket/fuse/switch
There were lots of issues with the PC3K internal PSU so this seems a good decision.
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Re: Kurzweil PC4

Postby The Elf » Wed Jul 08, 2020 8:21 am

Fleer wrote:
N i g e l wrote:
The Elf wrote:http://kurzweil.com/product/pc4/overview/

External PSU - et tu Brute? Seriously?

That really is a ludicrous, there must be so much empty space in that casing, plenty for PSU with a rear panel IEC socket/fuse/switch
There were lots of issues with the PC3K internal PSU so this seems a good decision.
And you'd still consider it a good decision when you're looking for that power supply 200 hundred miles away from home an hour before you're due on stage?
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Re: Kurzweil PC4

Postby Dave B » Wed Jul 08, 2020 2:10 pm

Fleer wrote:There were lots of issues with the PC3K internal PSU so this seems a good decision.

Interesting - I'd not come across that. I've owned 5 or 6 (definitely 5 ... not sure if I got to 6) of the PC3 series units over the years and never had an issue with the PSU. And my current Forte is fairly bulletproof too.

Speaking to some of the more open reps at last years Synthfest, manufacturers are have a hard time distinguishing between models these days as the engines are all so damn powerful. So it's now down to : plastic case, external PSU and no aftertouch for the cheaper models, and at least the PC4 gives us aftertouch...
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Re: Kurzweil PC4

Postby N i g e l » Fri Jul 10, 2020 11:49 pm

Dave B wrote:
Fleer wrote:There were lots of issues with the PC3K internal PSU so this seems a good decision.

Interesting - I'd not come across that. I've owned 5 or 6 (definitely 5 ..
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What were the issues exactly ? a bit of mechanical hum , total melt down ????

Ive not experienced any issues
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