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Re: Return of the Soundtrack Machine! (new sounds inside)

Postby Ben Asaro » Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:25 am

Well, the rough mix is done and I'm ready to put this one to the side and start the next one! :)

Here's a basic idea of what the final tracks sound like. No automation yet; actually, aside from some EQ, there are no plugins used at all yet!

https://soundcloud.com/asfollowswriting ... rough-mix2
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Re: Return of the Soundtrack Machine! (new sounds inside)

Postby Martin Walker » Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:20 pm

Hi again Ben,

Some big improvements there, but first of all many thanks for panning the opening arpeggiated sound to the middle - my ears are much happier ;) I also like the new mellow sound and filter sweep on this - much more dramatic!

One thing still sticks out for me though - the very taut snare sound that enters at 1:04 and continues throughout. It just sounds 'small' and 'close' compared to the rest of the track. You've got such a monumental sound on everything else, but my poor ears just keep rebelling in that after using Abbey Road for recording the rest of the band you overdubbed the snare in the office next door.

Still gorgeous overall! :clap: 8-) :thumbup:


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Re: Return of the Soundtrack Machine! (new sounds inside)

Postby Ben Asaro » Fri Jan 17, 2020 5:48 am

HA! Noted ... I agree, I’m not sold on the snare sound, either.

Thanks for your continued patience in listening and providing feedback, it’s really invaluable to me.

As for the bass panning ... you’re welcome lol. (I like asymmetrical mixing, but am aware not everyone else does!)
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Re: Return of the Soundtrack Machine! (new sounds inside)

Postby IAA » Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:35 am

Ben,
Firstly just listened to your latest rough mix. There’s some wonderful ideas and it’s well executed. I agree with Martin that the snare does sound a bit “out” given the grand epic scale of the music. The guitar chucka at 6m I think could be closer in the mix to really give it some welly a la Petrucci!
The closing bass at 8 10 I think is a little harsh with the lead line maybe a more Taurus type tuba swell might work.

Anyway these are but things that just struck me, I’m impressed with it, great work and when’s the live event? - it would work well at somewhere like the Eden Project with a full solar eclipse as a backdrop! :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Re: Return of the Soundtrack Machine! (new sounds inside)

Postby blinddrew » Fri Jan 17, 2020 9:36 am

IAA wrote: when’s the live event? - it would work well at somewhere like the Eden Project with a full solar eclipse as a backdrop! :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Re: Return of the Soundtrack Machine! (new sounds inside)

Postby Ben Asaro » Fri Jan 17, 2020 2:14 pm

IAA wrote:Ben,
Firstly just listened to your latest rough mix. There’s some wonderful ideas and it’s well executed.
Thanks for listening and providing feedback!

I agree with Martin that the snare does sound a bit “out” given the grand epic scale of the music.
I had one of those, “oh, duh!” moments late last night, thinking about this very subject. :)
It occurred to me that sat in my desk, unused, are two Lexicon reverb units and they have a brilliant gated reverb. Going to try running the snare through the Lexicon over the weekend and see what I get!

The guitar chucka at 6m I think could be closer in the mix to really give it some welly a la Petrucci!
Noted, thank you! I think the entire solo ended up being too loud! =p

The closing bass at 8 10 I think is a little harsh with the lead line maybe a more Taurus type tuba swell might work.
Great idea! Will see what I can do, thanks!

Anyway these are but things that just struck me, I’m impressed with it, great work and when’s the live event? - it would work well at somewhere like the Eden Project with a full solar eclipse as a backdrop! :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Thanks! We’re actually planning on using those “Starfield projectors” live. :)
A solar eclipse would work as well lol. ;)
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Re: Return of the Soundtrack Machine! (new sounds inside)

Postby Ben Asaro » Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:05 pm

Okay, re-re-visited the snare drum. Here's just Part 1 with a different snare setup.

https://soundcloud.com/asfollowswriting ... mix4-part1

Any/all feedback is appreciated, thanks!
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Re: Return of the Soundtrack Machine! (new sounds inside)

Postby Martin Walker » Sat Jan 18, 2020 2:32 pm

The snare is much better with the gated reverb, although the first four exposed hits at 1:04 still sound a little stark to me in isolation - you could add a short normal reverb tail to those in my opinion.

Perfection is within sight! :thumbup:


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Re: Return of the Soundtrack Machine! (new sounds inside)

Postby Ben Asaro » Sat Jan 18, 2020 2:51 pm

Yup, one step ahead of you! :) There is a short room ambience added, but it’s pretty short and subtle as I have just enough to spread the snare a bit. After playing it back, I realized that it also needs a sustained hall ‘verb as well. I agree — Gated drum sounds immense, but only when it has something to scale against. Another version coming soon ... thanks again for all the feedback, I appreciate it!
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Re: Return of the Soundtrack Machine! (new sounds inside)

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Re: Return of the Soundtrack Machine! (new sounds inside)

Postby Martin Walker » Sun Jan 19, 2020 12:25 pm

That's the one! :thumbup: 8-) :clap:

Hit hard in a big space 8-)


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Re: Return of the Soundtrack Machine! (new sounds inside)

Postby Ben Asaro » Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:12 pm

Thanks again for all the feedback! Now that that is settled, I’ll be mixing down stems for rehearsals.

Already started work on the next song, Carrousel, based on my favorite sci fi movie of 1977...
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Re: Return of the Soundtrack Machine! (new sounds inside)

Postby Eddy Deegan » Mon Jan 20, 2020 5:40 pm

Ben Asaro wrote:5th time a charm? lol

https://soundcloud.com/asfollowswriting ... mix5-part1

I like this a lot - though my brain wants a TR707 snare instead :-)

No worries, it's all good. I think you should have a ton of fun getting this worked out live too. Good work :thumbup:
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Re: Return of the Soundtrack Machine! (new sounds inside)

Postby Ben Asaro » Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:58 pm

Eddy Deegan wrote:
Ben Asaro wrote:5th time a charm? lol

https://soundcloud.com/asfollowswriting ... mix5-part1

I like this a lot - though my brain wants a TR707 snare instead :-)
LOL The nerve! :headbang:

No worries, it's all good. I think you should have a ton of fun getting this worked out live too. Good work :thumbup:
Yeah, we're getting together this week to start working on it!

Already started work on the next song, another epic lol.
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