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Re: Behringer 2600

Postby Wonks » Mon Jan 27, 2020 10:43 am

Pg 185 shows that you should be able to display the level of aftertouch pressure being applied. If you can get different levels on the bar display, then it's not the sensors. If you only get one level + off, then it probably is.
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Re: Behringer 2600

Postby Folderol » Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:38 am

That's useful info. I wasn't aware of that. However, monitoring the actual values that Yoshimi sees, reveals that it's not the note ranges that are different - they all come out at 0-127, but the pressure you have to exert before there is any response at all :(
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Re: Behringer 2600

Postby Wonks » Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:34 pm

On my D-50 you have to push pretty hard to trigger the aftertouch. I suppose it's to stop it being triggered accidentally by heavy-handed players.
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Re: Behringer 2600

Postby Dave B » Mon Jan 27, 2020 5:13 pm

Roland synths are notorious for needing a really heavy hand to work the aftertouch. As a JD800 owner, I always make sure my trusty lump hammer is on hand when playing....

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Re: Behringer 2600

Postby Folderol » Mon Jan 27, 2020 5:27 pm

Interesting.
Two questions though. Once triggered does it require a lot more pressure for max level (127) or is it like mine very little extra pressure?

Also, is it noticeably different for different keys?

Oh, and another question, does is seem to require more pressure for the black notes than the white ones?

What I'm finding particularly difficult is using this to change filter cutoff on a horn sound. Up till now I've used an override on the Mod wheel and that actually gives very good results, but of course then leaves me with no 'spare' hand :(
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Re: Behringer 2600

Postby DGL. » Mon Jan 27, 2020 6:06 pm

Folderol wrote:Interesting.
Two questions though. Once triggered does it require a lot more pressure for max level (127) or is it like mine very little extra pressure?

Also, is it noticeably different for different keys?

Oh, and another question, does is seem to require more pressure for the black notes than the white ones?

What I'm finding particularly difficult is using this to change filter cutoff on a horn sound. Up till now I've used an override on the Mod wheel and that actually gives very good results, but of course then leaves me with no 'spare' hand :(

Just get an S2/3 and be done with it, they don't come up very often and turbo models have the Varta batteries of death but they generally go for not much dosh.
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Re: Behringer 2600

Postby The Elf » Mon Jan 27, 2020 6:35 pm

Dave B wrote:Roland synths are notorious for needing a really heavy hand to work the aftertouch. As a JD800 owner, I always make sure my trusty lump hammer is on hand when playing....
I had my JX-8P modded it was so damned bad. All it needed was a resistor replacing in the aftertouch circuit, then it was a beautifully playable beast.

The Kronos was the best feeling aftertouch I've ever used. It's the only thing I miss about it!
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Re: Behringer 2600

Postby ramthelinefeed » Tue Jan 28, 2020 1:20 pm

So I saw about Korg's new Pearlman & Friend approved kARP 2600 in SOS's news section,
thought 'gosh, that's wonderful, what a time to be alive! :) '
only to find on every online store I looked at that it was a 'limited production run' and already sold out.

WHY DO THEY DO THAT!?!? :madas: :madas: :madas:
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Re: Behringer 2600

Postby Wonks » Tue Jan 28, 2020 1:30 pm

I can't even see the point of the review in next month's SOS. it's bound to be a multi-page in-depth review of something no-one can now buy.
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Re: Behringer 2600

Postby ramthelinefeed » Tue Jan 28, 2020 1:36 pm

Wonks wrote:I can't even see the point of the review in next month's SOS. it's bound to be a multi-page in-depth review of something no-one can now buy.

I bet Gordon Reid has two of them :bouncy:
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Re: Behringer 2600

Postby Hugh Robjohns » Tue Jan 28, 2020 1:44 pm

I dare say if there is evidence of serious demand there could well be a second production run, or a run in a slightly lower cost form without the flight-casing etc...

Or it may be that they just wanted to set a high benchmark before stepping aside to avoid pointlessly competing with Behringer's alternative.
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Re: Behringer 2600

Postby The Elf » Tue Jan 28, 2020 2:30 pm

ramthelinefeed wrote:So I saw about Korg's new Pearlman & Friend approved kARP 2600 in SOS's news section,
thought 'gosh, that's wonderful, what a time to be alive! :) '
only to find on every online store I looked at that it was a 'limited production run' and already sold out.

WHY DO THEY DO THAT!?!? :madas: :madas: :madas:
Probably because they only have resources to make that many and know that if the first lot sells out then people will be beating at doors to get the next batch!
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Re: Behringer 2600

Postby Arpangel » Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:48 am

This Korg situation is just plain silly, I know it’s not a mainstream product, but honestly, at least make "enough" to satisfy the demand, and Korg, you’re a big company, with access to large marketing and research departments, don’t tell me you haven’t done your research on what the demand could be.
Also, how about a repro of the ARP2500? Believe me, if that ever happened I’d get one, I mean "I'd" make sure I’d get one, know what I mean? even if only two were made.

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Re: Behringer 2600

Postby BigRedX » Wed Jan 29, 2020 10:46 am

If they are all sold out already I can't see any point in SOS reviewing it.
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Re: Behringer 2600

Postby desmond » Wed Jan 29, 2020 10:52 am

Maybe they weren't sure of demand and did a light manufacturing run to see how things go (especially in light of the competition), and if the demand is still there, then they might make more..?
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