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Getting away from the "synthesiser" sound.

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Re: Getting away from the "synthesiser" sound.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 4:19 pm
by Zukan
It's times like these that I miss sound design.

Re: Getting away from the "synthesiser" sound.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 8:07 am
by Arpangel
Hugh Robjohns wrote:
Arpangel wrote:....so what’s the point? Fine if that’s what floats your boat, but I find it all a bit of a waste of time and effort, personally.

The point is that we all have different preferences and different tastes.

So you what you might find boring, uninspiring, and a waste of time, someone else will undoubtedly find inspiring, exciting, stimulating and enjoyable.

And that's exactly as it should be. Dismissing things just because they don't appeal to you is not a great way of making friends or of gaining respect... :think:

I said fine, if that floats your boat.

Re: Getting away from the "synthesiser" sound.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:20 am
by Stephen Bennett
desmond wrote:
nathanscribe wrote:I decided to make my own, and I've done precisely that. Nothing fancy, just a monosynth which is configured exactly as I want it.

Ah, a rare sighting of that mythical beast many thought not to exist - the Restrained Modular User... :thumbup: :wave:

I use my modular stuff to process other sounds—usually to add extra modulation and controllable FX. I bought a single 1U rack so I don't go overboard.

I did love the studio though, so thanks for that.

The music I make is quite conventional!

Stephen

Re: Getting away from the "synthesiser" sound.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 1:04 pm
by Ben Asaro
Stephen Bennett wrote:
desmond wrote:
nathanscribe wrote:I decided to make my own, and I've done precisely that. Nothing fancy, just a monosynth which is configured exactly as I want it.

Ah, a rare sighting of that mythical beast many thought not to exist - the Restrained Modular User... :thumbup: :wave:

I use my modular stuff to process other sounds—usually to add extra modulation and controllable FX. I bought a single 1U rack so I don't go overboard.

I did love the studio though, so thanks for that.

The music I make is quite conventional!

Stephen
Just listened to the album in your signature. It’s great!!

Re: Getting away from the "synthesiser" sound.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 2:07 pm
by Eddy Deegan
Stephen Bennett wrote:The music I make is quite conventional!

Ben Asaro wrote:Just listened to the album in your signature. It’s great!!

Thanks for mentioning this Ben.

Stephen, based on the teaser video, I just ordered it on CD. It sounds right up my street! Lovely stuff :thumbup:

Also, it appears I ordered the last one available as they are now showing out of stock :angel:

Re: Getting away from the "synthesiser" sound.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 8:49 am
by Arpangel
You can see it coming like a train, I like Hainbach a lot, his channel is very inspiring, I find.
But when these electronic music techniques get resurrected out of relative obscurity, next thing you know Arturia have got a virtual test equipment studio out, complete with presets, presets, the curse of our world

Re: Getting away from the "synthesiser" sound.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 10:06 am
by Rich Hanson
I don't get why people get so hostile towards presets. Not everybody is good at sound design, and some of us like a good jumping off point from which to create a sound, and others like to take a sound and see what they can get out of it musically.

Acoustic instruments effectively only have one preset each, the sound being varied through playing technique but a violin still sounds like a violin, a bass guitar still sounds like a bass guitar; why should electronic instruments be held to a different standard?

Re: Getting away from the "synthesiser" sound.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 12:21 pm
by The Elf
Rich Hanson wrote:I don't get why people get so hostile towards presets.
:thumbup: The Mellotron is a bunch of 'presets' and it's made some of the most inspiring music the world has ever heard...

Re: Getting away from the "synthesiser" sound.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 12:23 pm
by Rich Hanson
The Elf wrote:
Rich Hanson wrote:I don't get why people get so hostile towards presets.
:thumbup: My Mellotron is a bunch of presets and it sounds pretty good to me. It's made some of the most inspiring music the world has ever heard...

My VC340 is basically three presets with a tone control :bouncy:

Re: Getting away from the "synthesiser" sound.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 2020 9:00 am
by Arpangel
I use presets a lot, and as a jumping off point.
But a lot of presets are so generic, and cheesy. And it always amazes me when a new "ground breaking" synth comes out, it’ll have a Moog Lead, a Jaco bass sound, and a load of cheesy strings/brass. Sure, there’s a use for all that in workstations, but on some keyboards, it hardly seems necessary.

Re: Getting away from the "synthesiser" sound.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 2020 2:20 pm
by Martin Walker
Arpangel wrote:I use presets a lot, and as a jumping off point.
But a lot of presets are so generic, and cheesy. And it always amazes me when a new "ground breaking" synth comes out, it’ll have a Moog Lead, a Jaco bass sound, and a load of cheesy strings/brass. Sure, there’s a use for all that in workstations, but on some keyboards, it hardly seems necessary.

Hear hear!

However (sadly), sales of some keyboards have suffered depending on whether or not they offer a decent grand piano sound, so this cheesy madness continues ;)


Martin

Re: Getting away from the "synthesiser" sound.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 2020 4:06 pm
by CS70
Arpangel wrote:I use presets a lot, and as a jumping off point.
But a lot of presets are so generic, and cheesy. And it always amazes me when a new "ground breaking" synth comes out, it’ll have a Moog Lead, a Jaco bass sound, and a load of cheesy strings/brass. Sure, there’s a use for all that in workstations, but on some keyboards, it hardly seems necessary.

That’s perhaps because the sound is more important than the music?

I can play smoke on the water with dozen of different distortion types (or without any) but it’ll just be smoke on the water. The sound is far less relevant than what you do with it.

Never heard a cheesy preset, only cheesy music :)

Re: Getting away from the "synthesiser" sound.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 2020 4:07 pm
by Rich Hanson
I like cheese.

Squeak squeak.

Re: Getting away from the "synthesiser" sound.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 2020 5:02 pm
by Ben Asaro
Rich Hanson wrote:I like cheese.

Squeak squeak.
LOL Same!!

Re: Getting away from the "synthesiser" sound.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 2020 5:25 pm
by Stephen Bennett
Thanks for the kind words Eddie and Ben–and for the info! Much appreciated.

I use my 'preset' Novatron 400 quite a bit on there, Elf!

(if you remove the Novatron badge it says 'Mellotron' underneath. Oh those heady days when they couldn't use the real name!)

Stephen