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Re: The All-New Behringer Keyboards 'n' Stuff Thread

Postby Folderol » Sun Jun 28, 2020 6:41 pm

ManFromGlass wrote:
The Elf wrote:Crazy as it may seem to thee and me they are seen as 'cool' by many of those born after 2000!

And my dad used to make fun of me for going out with a woman born in 1960!
I find I tend to think of post 2000 as 'recent' and have difficulty with the idea that there are now a lot of adults who have no direct knowledge of anything earlier :?
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Re: The All-New Behringer Keyboards 'n' Stuff Thread

Postby blinddrew » Sun Jun 28, 2020 7:24 pm

Yeah, we have people at work who were born in this century. Have to stop and think about it sometimes.
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Re: The All-New Behringer Keyboards 'n' Stuff Thread

Postby ManFromGlass » Sun Jun 28, 2020 9:37 pm

I’m hoping some of them are smarter than us and better at problem solving.
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Re: The All-New Behringer Keyboards 'n' Stuff Thread

Postby Airlane » Sun Jun 28, 2020 10:00 pm

Rich Hanson wrote:Obviously on most polys you can make a monophonic voice to cover those situations, but that's just a waste of a polysynth!
Not, so far as I can tell, on my Yamaha MX49 polysynth which seems to lack monophonic legato envelope retriggering which means that smooth bass or lead lines using decaying envelopes don't work properly and fade into the distance. Why, Yamaha?
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Re: The All-New Behringer Keyboards 'n' Stuff Thread

Postby Arpangel » Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:36 am

ManFromGlass wrote:I’m hoping some of them are smarter than us and better at problem solving.

Have I got some news for you there........

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Re: The All-New Behringer Keyboards 'n' Stuff Thread

Postby DGL. » Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:02 pm

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Re: The All-New Behringer Keyboards 'n' Stuff Thread

Postby The Elf » Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:09 pm

DGL. wrote:Thomann, KT BBD 320 in stock £145
https://www.thomann.de/gb/klark_teknik_ ... bd_320.htm
I'm so curious about that one. I'd love to try it against my original.
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Re: The All-New Behringer Keyboards 'n' Stuff Thread

Postby resistorman » Wed Jul 01, 2020 7:40 pm

The Elf wrote:
DGL. wrote:Thomann, KT BBD 320 in stock £145
https://www.thomann.de/gb/klark_teknik_ ... bd_320.htm
I'm so curious about that one. I'd love to try it against my original.
Seems like an awful lot of rack space for one effect, though...
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Re: The All-New Behringer Keyboards 'n' Stuff Thread

Postby The Elf » Wed Jul 01, 2020 7:51 pm

resistorman wrote:
The Elf wrote:
DGL. wrote:Thomann, KT BBD 320 in stock £145
https://www.thomann.de/gb/klark_teknik_ ... bd_320.htm
I'm so curious about that one. I'd love to try it against my original.
Seems like an awful lot of rack space for one effect, though...
Oh ye of little faith! ;) :D Trust me, once you've heard it you don't begrudge the rack space! :lol:
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Re: The All-New Behringer Keyboards 'n' Stuff Thread

Postby Arpangel » Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:37 am

Can anyone tell me what proportion of Behringer's manufacturing is done in China?
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Re: The All-New Behringer Keyboards 'n' Stuff Thread

Postby Hugh Robjohns » Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:40 am

I imagine all of it, given that he has built his own factory with supporting 'city' for the employees over there.

https://www.synthanatomy.com/2018/03/music-tribe-city-get-an-insight-factory-behringer.html
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Re: The All-New Behringer Keyboards 'n' Stuff Thread

Postby Arpangel » Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:54 am

Hugh Robjohns wrote:I imagine all of it, given that he has built his own factory with supporting 'city' for the employees over there.

https://www.synthanatomy.com/2018/03/music-tribe-city-get-an-insight-factory-behringer.html

Very interesting, I’m just a bit uneasy with this whole concept, and it’s affected the way I approach buying gear now.
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Re: The All-New Behringer Keyboards 'n' Stuff Thread

Postby DGL. » Fri Jul 03, 2020 12:31 pm

Arpangel wrote:Can anyone tell me what proportion of Behringer's manufacturing is done in China?

All of Behringer's manufacturing as is most everything else MT sells, there might be still some European manufacturing for Lab.Gruppen and they still have the Tannoy factory in Coatbridge that makes the high end Tannoy lifestyle products.

R+D on the other hand is done all over Europe ( Quay Park in Manchester (with the Kidderminster MKT building now used for repairs/CARE/training), Willich in Germany (original Behringer HQ) and Italy), Japan, China and I would have thought also at their HQ in Manilla (well that's where it was).
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Re: The All-New Behringer Keyboards 'n' Stuff Thread

Postby Hugh Robjohns » Fri Jul 03, 2020 12:37 pm

Arpangel wrote:Very interesting, I’m just a bit uneasy with this whole concept, and it’s affected the way I approach buying gear now.

You'll be hard pressed to find any audio equipment that doesn't have at least some parts made in China these days. There are some UK manufacturers that make their own PCBs and metalwork etc in the UK, and likewise for European and American companies, but usually these tend to be the most premium high-end products where the higher production costs can be more easily absorbed. And even then, some sub-assemblies may well still be manufactured in China.

But most companies now build in China, and as the build quality has improved, more and more product production has been moved there. Mics, mixing consoles, speaker drivers, outboard processors... you name it...

And this doesn't just apply to audio gear -- almost every aspect of our lives relies heavily on Chinese manufacturing.

It's not a clever position to be in strategically, but the continual myopic consumer drive for 'cheaper' has played it that way...
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Re: The All-New Behringer Keyboards 'n' Stuff Thread

Postby nathanscribe » Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:16 pm

Hugh Robjohns wrote:And even then, some sub-assemblies may well still be manufactured in China.

Not to forget the components themselves. Parts are made in various places but I suspect China now turns out a lot of it.
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