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Re: The All-New Behringer Keyboards 'n' Stuff Thread

Postby FrankF » Mon Jan 04, 2021 12:53 pm

An amusing review of the softie version from 2010: bravo, Gordon Reid!

https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/xils-lab-polykb
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Postby N i g e l » Tue Jan 05, 2021 2:20 pm

Hmmm. I like the styling, modern retro, very reminiscent of the Prologue.

I might give the VST a demo, if for some unexplained reason I have some free time at home.

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Re: The All-New Behringer Keyboards 'n' Stuff Thread

Postby BillB » Tue Jan 05, 2021 8:23 pm

FrankF wrote:An amusing review of the softie version from 2010: bravo, Gordon Reid!
https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/xils-lab-polykb

From the review conclusion:
We Brits tend to look down on the French synth industry. Or we would, if we could find it.
I think perhaps Gordon had just supped a glass of wine. :bouncy:
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Re: The All-New Behringer Keyboards 'n' Stuff Thread

Postby DGL. » Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:21 pm

Looks like Behringer will do a new version of the fabled now discontinued BCR2000 rotary encoder MIDI controller but this time they have worked with the people/person who created the Zaquencer for it and as such it will come from the factory with a built in sequencer and 4 CV/GATE outputs. looks like 32 knobs with 4 banks per setup. Targeting $149 release price.
For once a clone of one of their own products!, something no one can get mad at them doing.

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Re: The All-New Behringer Keyboards 'n' Stuff Thread

Postby desmond » Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:27 pm

DGL. wrote:Looks like Behringer will do a new version of the fabled now discontinued BCR2000 rotary encoder MIDI controller

They'd teased about this before and I was interested as it might be a good controller for my custom setup. I've no interest in the sequencer or the CV stuff though, and I preferred the previously teased form but I'll be keeping an eye on this...
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Postby N i g e l » Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:44 pm

Excellent ! about time too.
I like the look of the display.
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Re: The All-New Behringer Keyboards 'n' Stuff Thread

Postby blinddrew » Sat Jan 09, 2021 5:06 pm

Nice, mine is getting increasingly temperamental and it really slows down my workflow when I don't have it.
I will have to make a new set of wooden end-cheeks for it though...
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Postby Folderol » Sat Jan 09, 2021 5:33 pm

It's also USB powered. I thought the original was a wall wart jobbie - or was that only the BCF?
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Re: The All-New Behringer Keyboards 'n' Stuff Thread

Postby blinddrew » Sat Jan 09, 2021 5:41 pm

BCF and BCR are both fig-8 leads with internal power supplies.
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Re: The All-New Behringer Keyboards 'n' Stuff Thread

Postby Folderol » Sat Jan 09, 2021 5:44 pm

blinddrew wrote:BCF and BCR are both fig-8 leads with internal power supplies.
Ooops :blush:
Well, I was close - they're mains powered whereas this seems not to be :think:
Have they considerably reduced power consumption, or are they expecting USB3 connection?
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Re: The All-New Behringer Keyboards 'n' Stuff Thread

Postby BillB » Sat Jan 09, 2021 5:53 pm

Excellent. My original I sent still doing fine, but this looks like a neater form factor - the BCR2000 is an oddly clunky piece of plastic. Like Desmond, I don’t have a great interest in the Zaquencer, but it is nice that this is built-in for the very reasonable price, and just one button to flip between the Zaq/Controller modes - much better than having to flip the firmware!

Good to see the return of the ring LEDs around the encoders as well. This is a great technique for showing parameter values, employed far too infrequently (says the smug Nord Rack 3 owner).

Well done, Behringer.
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Re: The All-New Behringer Keyboards 'n' Stuff Thread

Postby The Elf » Sat Jan 09, 2021 6:47 pm

This should almost certainly be a winner. It has so many uses (and I am also completely disinterested in the sequencer) that it's not hard to think of many uses for a generic device like this.

At a price of 150 quid I think it's a touch expensive for what it is, but maybe that will change.
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Re: The All-New Behringer Keyboards 'n' Stuff Thread

Postby blinddrew » Sat Jan 09, 2021 8:46 pm

Folderol wrote:
blinddrew wrote:BCF and BCR are both fig-8 leads with internal power supplies.
Ooops :blush:
Well, I was close - they're mains powered whereas this seems not to be :think:
Have they considerably reduced power consumption, or are they expecting USB3 connection?
Really there's no reason why a BCR should need more than bus power. There's nothing heavy duty going on under the hood. The BCF is a different matter of course.
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Re: The All-New Behringer Keyboards 'n' Stuff Thread

Postby Folderol » Sat Jan 09, 2021 9:00 pm

blinddrew wrote:
Folderol wrote:
blinddrew wrote:BCF and BCR are both fig-8 leads with internal power supplies.
Ooops :blush:
Well, I was close - they're mains powered whereas this seems not to be :think:
Have they considerably reduced power consumption, or are they expecting USB3 connection?
Really there's no reason why a BCR should need more than bus power. There's nothing heavy duty going on under the hood. The BCF is a different matter of course.
Actually the BCF is an interesting case. They could have bus powered the electronics then have the mains PSU taking over, and separately powering the fader motors.
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Re: The All-New Behringer Keyboards 'n' Stuff Thread

Postby DGL. » Sun Jan 10, 2021 3:20 pm

They have just put up a FB post confirming/announcing the specs for the BCR32

Behringer FB wrote:Wow, we're blown away by the amazing feedback - 3,500 likes in a single day:-)
Do you know that the original BCR2000 is actually 15 years old? The original designers Bert and Thomas are still with us and thrilled that their baby gets a second life.
Please find the BCR32 feature list and let us hear your comments:
USB/MIDI Controller/Sequencer with 32 Multi-Purpose Encoders and Polyphonic 32-Step / 4-Track Zaquencer
• Universal USB/MIDI controller for triggering audio clips, MIDI events or any MIDI equipment
• Highly-acclaimed Zaquencer from ZAQ Audio for unmatched sequencer performance
• Compatible with popular DAWs or other music production software
• 32 multi-purpose encoders for custom assignment of parameters
• 4 virtual groups and 8 dual-mode encoders with push function
• 20 programmable buttons, assignable as note on/off, control and program change, MMC and system exclusive data
• All panel elements are freely assignable, manually or via user-friendly learn mode
• 32-step, 4-track Zaquencer featuring mono/polyphonic drum and note tracks
• Storage of all global parameters and up to 192 patterns, each consisting of 4 tracks
• 2 independent MIDI controls per track (program change, aftertouch, pitch bend, CCs)
• 4 CV/Gate and Sync connectors for controlling synthesizers, drum machines and other equipment
• 2 assignable footswitch connectors for handsfree control
• Multi-function OLED display for easy control of all parameters
• High visibility multi-color LED feedback to show status of all controls
• 1 MIDI input and 2 MIDI output connectors to serve as additional USB to MIDI interface
• MIDI input with merge function for cascading several control units
• USB powered compact design for ultimate portability
• Compatible with Apple iPad* via USB Camera Adapter (not included)
• Class-compliant MIDI/USB protocol for "plug and play" operation
• 3-year extended warranty upon registration
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