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Re: Analogue Lives! (SOS/Muzines)

Postby MOF » Sat Mar 13, 2021 7:39 pm

What dpi do you want the scans to be? I have some of these magazines.
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Re: Analogue Lives! (SOS/Muzines)

Postby desmond » Sat Mar 13, 2021 7:40 pm

MOF wrote:What dpi do you want the scans to be? I have some of these magazines.

Hi - thanks! Details here:
http://www.muzines.co.uk/scandetails

Which issues do you have? We have about 98% of International Musician, it's just taking a while to scan them as they are often 200+ page monster issues... so issues that fill gaps we don't have access to are the most useful, at this stage. :thumbup:
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Re: Analogue Lives! (SOS/Muzines)

Postby MOF » Sat Mar 13, 2021 8:36 pm

Thank you, I’ll check what I’ve got, they’re in plastic stacking boxes in my loft, I’m an inveterate hoarder.
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Re: Analogue Lives! (SOS/Muzines)

Postby desmond » Sat Mar 13, 2021 8:40 pm

MOF wrote:Thank you, I’ll check what I’ve got, they’re in plastic stacking boxes in my loft, I’m an inveterate hoarder.

Awesome, thanks. There are other publications we're looking for as well, so if you could give me an idea of what you find up there, that'd be super! :thumbup:
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Re: Analogue Lives! (SOS/Muzines)

Postby Hugh Robjohns » Sat Mar 13, 2021 11:37 pm

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Hugh Robjohns wrote:I was ripped off! :D I paid £1300 for mine in 1984.

Nah, that was in the ballpark:

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Ooh. That's a fascinating chart. Yes, it felt a fair purchase price at the time -- came from a studio in Taunton -- and it was in very good condition and complete with the lid, music rest, legs and both pedals. Looks like I sold it for a good price too, which is a small consolation...

Had you kept it, however... :shock: :shocked: :? :tongue: :thumbdown:.

I know, I know... A mate bought one last year with a MIDI retrofit for around £24k ! it's in lovely nick and sounds superb, but OMG! :shocked:
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Re: Analogue Lives! (SOS/Muzines)

Postby MOF » Tue Mar 16, 2021 11:41 pm

Awesome, thanks. There are other publications we're looking for as well, so if you could give me an idea of what you find up there, that'd be super! :thumbup:

I’ve found July and December 1979 ‘International Musician & Recording world’ plus February, June (it’s Muse on the cover) and July 2001 of Making Music.
I’ve got quite a few ‘Beat Instrumental’ magazines (you asked what else I’ve got) as well.
I haven’t finished my search yet.
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Re: Analogue Lives! (SOS/Muzines)

Postby desmond » Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:53 am

MOF wrote:
Awesome, thanks. There are other publications we're looking for as well, so if you could give me an idea of what you find up there, that'd be super! :thumbup:

I’ve found July and December 1979 ‘International Musician & Recording world’ plus February, June (it’s Muse on the cover) and July 2001 of Making Music.

Great - they fill some important holes!

MOF wrote:I’ve got quite a few ‘Beat Instrumental’ magazines (you asked what else I’ve got) as well. I haven’t finished my search yet.

Thanks - I'm not tackling Beat Instrumental, I've turned down collections of those in the past. There's a *lot* of them, and there's only so much I can do! :o :crazy:

Given that tomorrow is our official fifth birthday, there *might* be some new publications added
(ssh! There's gonna be some new publications added!)

If we can arrange to get those issues you mention scanned/lent/given to us to scan, that'd be fab! :thumbup:
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Re: Analogue Lives! (SOS/Muzines)

Postby The Korff » Wed Mar 17, 2021 7:34 am

Morning Des!

Ping me an email to news@soundonsound dot etc when the new mags are up and I'll post a 'birthday/new content' news story on the website and social media.

Cheers!

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Re: Analogue Lives! (SOS/Muzines)

Postby desmond » Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:19 pm

Thanks, will do!

This morning got off to a fine start when about 25 members of police, fire, paramedics descended into the woods at the back of the field out of my window, then an Air Ambulance landed outside my backgarden... they recovered a body. Doesn't seem to be a crime scene though, the whole thing was rather odd, and sad of course... :(
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Re: Analogue Lives! (SOS/Muzines)

Postby MOF » Mon Apr 12, 2021 3:15 pm

Hi Desmond, I'm uploading the first 17 pages of International Musician December 1979.
I couldn't find a text box, so just to let you know that I'm slowly working my way through the scanning process. Hopefully they are good enough quality. Zipping didn't massively reduce the file size. Cheers from MOF.
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Re: Analogue Lives! (SOS/Muzines)

Postby desmond » Mon Apr 12, 2021 3:39 pm

MOF wrote:Hi Desmond, I'm uploading the first 17 pages of International Musician December 1979.

Ah, that was you! Thanks - I wondered why I had no contact details and something appeared out of the blue!

MOF wrote:I couldn't find a text box, so just to let you know that I'm slowly working my way through the scanning process. Hopefully they are good enough quality. Zipping didn't massively reduce the file size. Cheers from MOF.

The Contribute form lets you say "I'm scanning this particular issue" and add whatever issues you are referring to, lets you add you contact details and so on. I have a workflow for handling this, and it lets me know what people are planning to donate, and lets me get in touch to avoid duplication - eg "Someone's already scanning this, so you don't need to repeat the work!") - so that's the preferred workflow.

600dpi TIFFs are pretty sizeable, so yes, please upload in chunks of 1-2GB or so, my Dropbox can only handle about 6GB at a time... If 300dpi speeds up the scan process, then that's easier to handle, and for this old content, it's not a quality problem.

These early IM's are a pain to scan (we've done plenty of them!) so I appreciate you helping with this. Make sure that you apply pressure while scanning otherwise the pages tend to go wobbly from warping. If pages have folded corners etc, it's preferable to fold them over flat, as it saves me having to Photoshop fix hundreds of pages - same with straightening pages - if you can align the page edges to the scanner edge while scanning, that again saves manual fixes of these - this stuff can make a difference of taking minutes to process scans to taking hours.

Having said that, I'd rather have adequate scans than no scans at all, and if I have to do extra work to fix them, then that's what I do, so... ;)
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Re: Analogue Lives! (SOS/Muzines)

Postby MOF » Wed Apr 14, 2021 12:50 am

Hi Desmond, I think I’ve done what you asked for, I tried to keep pressure on the pages, that issue was stored vertically and moved slightly in the box so there are slight undulations in the pages.
I checked that that issue wasn’t owned before scanning.
Let me know if you’d like any re-scans. I might go over to 300dpi except for the front covers.
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Re: Analogue Lives! (SOS/Muzines)

Postby desmond » Wed Apr 14, 2021 10:58 am

MOF wrote:Hi Desmond, I think I’ve done what you asked for, I tried to keep pressure on the pages, that issue was stored vertically and moved slightly in the box so there are slight undulations in the pages.

Great! These old mags are thick and it's indeed often a struggle to get them flat.

MOF wrote:I checked that that issue wasn’t owned before scanning.

What I meant by the above is that there's generally activity that happens *before* something can be updated on the site - for instance, there are many issues that I don't own (and are flagged as such on the site), but *are* owned by contributors - some of whom hypothetically may be literally scanning that issue as we speak (much as you are now). So Mike (or someone else, but mostly Mike as he's a legend :) ) might have been scanning IM Dec 1979, and then when done, sends it to me, at which point I mark that we now have it and the scan is complete.

While he was scanning that issue, if someone else came along and using the Contribute form essentially was saying "Hey, I have IM Dec 79 and I'm happy to scan it for you", I'd be able to reply thanking them but saying that it's unnecessary as it's already being scanned by someone else, or perhaps to ask to focus on other issues they have that I know aren't available to us, etc.

I generally don't mark an issue on the site as "Donated" or even "Donation - Incoming" when someone promises issues to us as a lot of the time, for various reasons, those promised issues don't turn up, get forgotten about, the donor doesn't get round to it or has more important things to do etc. So I'll only change the status of donor issues when they actually arrive (physically or as scans).

MOF wrote:Let me know if you’d like any re-scans.

I don't think that's necessary, thanks. It was more the first opportunity I had to give some feedback, as sometimes little things can make a big difference in the work involved processing them, and in this case this thread was the only way of communicating that stuff because I had no other way of contacting you.

For example I've had issues for example that, un-noticed while scanning, had some junk or bit of paper between one of the pages that falls out onto the scanner and now every scanned page has an annoying blob in slightly different positions on every page. It doesn't take many complete magazine rescans, or 200-page Photoshop patch-ups to at least build in some regular checks to see if anything fell out of the pages while scanning that needs to be removed!

MOF wrote:I might go over to 300dpi except for the front covers.

Yep, generally 300dpi is plenty fine for us. One of the benefits of my approach to this archive is that the scans are not the archive, they are just part of it, and they are in many ways raw material to extract the contents from - so there's less pressure try to find perfect quality issues and scan them immaculately, which would dramatically slow down how much content we could get through. Of course, where issues are poor, I will mark as such and this lets us try to find better copies, but in generally, as long as the scans are as flat as possible, not blurry, don't have huge dark edges, are in colour and scanned at 300dppi, don't have pages/content missing and huge corner folds etc, we can work with them!

Thanks - these efforts are much appreciated! :thumbup:
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Re: Analogue Lives! (SOS/Muzines)

Postby Arpangel » Wed Apr 14, 2021 11:24 am

Hugh Robjohns wrote:I know, I know... A mate bought one last year with a MIDI retrofit for around £24k ! it's in lovely nick and sounds superb, but OMG! :shocked:

I wonder what his is going to be worth in ten years time? that would put it into perspective, financially, but I don’t think as an investment, vintage synths are going to threaten bricks and mortar just yet, and the market is very, very small!
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