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Re: New Studio Build - Summerly Studios

Postby Tonyes335 » Sat Aug 05, 2017 8:59 am

Here is the adjusted floor plan with dims as built.

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Re: New Studio Build - Summerly Studios

Postby Tonyes335 » Fri Sep 01, 2017 6:49 pm

Framing the control room at last.

The structural engineer provided the calcs for the ceiling beam., The Building control officer checked and confirmed, so I got the go ahead.

The framing is 45mmx95mm. The beams are 3 no.45mmx195mm bolted together. (I used 45mmx220mm for the lower beam as I had it on site.)
I used 45mmx195mm around the window reveals to support the glass in due course.

Due to the position of the external window and beam depths the final ceiling shape was slightly different. A quick e-mail to HT confirmed my adjustments were acceptable and he will recalculate the bass traps when I have the final finished dims.

I am building the attenuators as part of the ceiling structure. More to follow.


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Re: New Studio Build - Summerly Studios

Postby Folderol » Fri Sep 01, 2017 7:05 pm

That's some serious carpentry going on there :o
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Re: New Studio Build - Summerly Studios

Postby Tonyes335 » Sun Sep 03, 2017 6:00 pm

More images of the framing, you can get an idea of the ceiling shape. Just the rear section to do which has some compound angles due to the angle of the ceiling and the angle of the rear wall.

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Re: New Studio Build - Summerly Studios

Postby Guest271017 » Sun Sep 03, 2017 7:00 pm

Looking good! :thumbup:
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Re: New Studio Build - Summerly Studios

Postby Martin Walker » Mon Sep 04, 2017 3:34 pm

Love that wood! 8-)


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Re: New Studio Build - Summerly Studios

Postby Tonyes335 » Mon Sep 04, 2017 5:04 pm

Thank you, It is almost a shame to cover it up!

So this is the exact profile.

The hard surface is offset so it is underneath and reflective at the front. The rear 2/3rds, the hard surface is on top meaning the ceiling becomes part of the acoustic treatment.
Care has to be taken with the first beam as the bolt holes could present an air path so they will be well caulked. Nothing touches the outer shell. This differs from the original plan due to beam sizes, so I ran it passed the studio designer(HT), who will recalculate the bass treatment in due course.

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Re: New Studio Build - Summerly Studios

Postby Forum Admin » Mon Sep 04, 2017 5:39 pm

Superb effort Tony. We're all dying to see you get it finished.

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Re: New Studio Build - Summerly Studios

Postby Tonyes335 » Sun Sep 10, 2017 8:38 am

Framing is finished.

Next on the job list is making the attenuators for the HVAC. I'll be building them into the ceiling. I'll need 6 for this room. Two fresh air at the front, Two at the rear and one each for the inlet and outlet to the outside. I'll then fill the voids with light Rockwool, the frames will be filled with 100mm RW45 and I can start boarding.

View of ceiling shape.
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View from rear corner.
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View from front corner
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Looking from tracking room
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Re: New Studio Build - Summerly Studios

Postby Folderol » Sun Sep 10, 2017 9:25 am

Looking good. That's some serious amount of effort you've put into it. I don't think I could have managed a fraction of that - took me 16 years to replace a garden gate :lol:
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Re: New Studio Build - Summerly Studios

Postby Tonyes335 » Sun Sep 17, 2017 8:13 am

I made a start on the air attenuators. Still looking for some suitable fabric to cover the Rockwool lining. The plan was to lightly spray with water based lacquer but I would rather the Rockwool is covered to be sure. Once the boxes are sealed they will become part of the ceiling so will be covered with 3 layers of plasterboard. I'll get a few more images when I make the next one.

Assembling the box 1000mmx500mmx350mm. As usual all joints sealed with acoustic caulk.
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Lining with Rockwool. Not quite finished waiting for fabric.
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Re: New Studio Build - Summerly Studios

Postby Tonyes335 » Sun Sep 17, 2017 8:26 am

I'm also working on the tracking room wall. In order to utilise some of the wasted space in the void between the two rooms I am building in some storage space. There is still plenty of air gap for isolation purposes.

The boxes above and below the window will actually be part of the wall so will be lined with 3 layers of plasterboard to maintain the wall's mass.

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A view from the control room window

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A view of the void. At the closet point (back of th box) it is still over 300mm of air gap.

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Re: New Studio Build - Summerly Studios

Postby Zukan » Sun Sep 17, 2017 10:40 am

Martin Walker wrote:Love that wood! 8-)


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Re: New Studio Build - Summerly Studios

Postby Wonks » Sun Sep 17, 2017 11:42 am

Zukan wrote:
Martin Walker wrote:Love that wood! 8-)


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....sigh.....I thought we talked about you counting to ten before you post?

But you know he always leaves out 2 to 9 when he's excited.
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Re: New Studio Build - Summerly Studios

Postby Tonyes335 » Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:31 pm

Making attenuators.

After the effort of sealing every joint in every layer of construction it seems a shame to make a hole for ventilation! However we do need to breathe. Every time we penetrate a layer of construction we need to limit the transmission of sound. Each room has two fresh air inlet vents, two stale air exhaust vents, then on the outer shell we have one inlet and and one outlet.

Six attenuators for each room, a total of twelve for my project.
They are quite big so I built six at a time.

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They are built from 18mm MDF. Lined with 50mm Rockwool RW45, wrapped in a garden fleece 17gm2.

I used 4*60mm torx head MDF screws
150mm vent pipe
150mm top hat spigots
Acoustic caulk.
Tescon and Tyvek Airproofing tape.

In total I needed:
24 tops and bottoms 1000mmx500mm
24 sides 1000mm x 314mm
24 ends 464mm x 314mm
24 baffles 464mmx182mm

I used Sketchup to draw a cutting list to make the most economical use of MDF sheets, 2440mmx1220mm

Once I cut all the above,I used a pilot with countersink to drill all the fixing holes.
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I then assembled one box at a time caulking all the joints.
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The Rockwool is rigid and easy to cut with an old bread knife. I used a garden fleece to wrap each peice. I simply used a line of PVA on the back of the RWA45 to stick the fleece which when positioned in the box also kept it stuck in place. (Although I found that friction was sufficient to hold it all in place.)
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The first box I made I screwed to a piece of OSB, which is the first layer of ceiling. It was already very heavy so needed the board lifter to get into place. I will cover with the cover the boxes plasterboard to maintain the integrity of the ceilings mass .
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I decided to put the 4 external inlet and outlet boxes in place and assemble in position. The main reason was drilling the hole in the correct place. And the other is they are heavy enough as it is!
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I made a template so I could be sure I would miss the gable end studs and the truss concealed behind the plasterboard. (I marked their position off on the wall after each layer so I knew where they were.)

The board lifter was used to help man handle the four boxes into position, and they were screwed to the gable end wall. (Caulking the screw heads)

Using a 150mm hole saw I drilled through the several layers of MDF, Plasterboard, OSB to get to the outside world. I inserted a 150mm pvc pipe through the attenuators straight to the outside. I kept a slight decline from inside to outside in case any moisture were to get in the pipe so it would run to the outside and not into the box. I used expanding foam from the outside to seal the penetration and acoustic caulk on the
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Re: New Studio Build - Summerly Studios

Postby Tonyes335 » Tue Nov 14, 2017 9:55 pm

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Another attenuator going into position.

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In place

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Walls getting Insulation.

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Self adhesive pins for preventing fluffy insulation sagging or falling into the void.

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Views of the walls with insulation.

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Re: New Studio Build - Summerly Studios

Postby Folderol » Wed Nov 15, 2017 5:16 pm

This certainly seems to be a mammoth task :shock:
I shall never grumble about having to do my home D.I.Y. again :lol:
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Re: New Studio Build - Summerly Studios

Postby blinddrew » Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:08 pm

And likewise I promise not to complain about having to get the duvets and mic stands from the garage! :)
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Re: New Studio Build - Summerly Studios

Postby KetchellBrothers » Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:33 pm

The Red Bladder wrote:I am watching this with interest, as I am about to begin work on a similar thing to expand the business, only this will be for editing and mastering only, so it will all be in one c.a. 40 sq m room.

Tonyes335 wrote:I will be recording myself, friends and family. It will also be a business.

The 'Studio-for-Rent' business model works in central London, especially if you have a large live room.

Hi there! Regarding the initial post Tony, I too will be planning on recording family, friends and renting it out to bands in London. My question to 'The Red Bladder' is -

How central are we talking? If west london and on the central line but zone 4 is there a chance if I promote it and use a network of fellow musicians of getting bands in?

I totally agree that singer song writers can do it at home these days..it's the drum kit and large live room I like Tony am hoping is the selling point.
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Re: New Studio Build - Summerly Studios

Postby Sam Spoons » Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:58 pm

It certainly is, my little project is a closet by comparison :headbang:

It is an inspiration to do the best with what you have though..... :D
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