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Re: Snake oil?

Postby Martin Walker » Wed Sep 19, 2018 2:07 pm

jaminem wrote:I'm in and ready to hear a wonderful change in my Hi fi system.

Looking forward to hearing your before and after audio recordings jaminem! :tongue:


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Re: Snake oil?

Postby CS70 » Wed Sep 19, 2018 2:29 pm

garrettendi wrote:I'm the first to admit I'm far from experienced, but how do people fall for that? Sounds like a pretty good scam.


The same way we fall for all others: a strong wish of something to be true, weak skills in how to distinguish what's true or not,and sufficient arrogance which does not allow you to improve them..
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Re: Snake oil?

Postby Logarhythm » Wed Sep 19, 2018 3:01 pm

jaminem wrote:When this disc is excited by any external acoustic energy, it will resonate throughout the entire audible spectrum
Pah, you're an embarrassment to the audiophile community. Who cares about the audible spectrum?
If it doesn't work all the way up to 90kHz then it's not going to be of any benefit to my supertweeters or 192/24 recordings.
May as well be using standard mains power leads :roll:
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Re: Snake oil?

Postby BobTheDog » Wed Sep 19, 2018 5:52 pm

CS70 wrote:
garrettendi wrote:I'm the first to admit I'm far from experienced, but how do people fall for that? Sounds like a pretty good scam.


The same way we fall for all others: a strong wish of something to be true, weak skills in how to distinguish what's true or not,and sufficient arrogance which does not allow you to improve them..

Now what does that remind me of?
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Re: Snake oil?

Postby Martin Walker » Wed Sep 19, 2018 6:39 pm

Yes, that does sound a vaguely familiar scenario doesn't it? :mrgreen:
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Re: Snake oil?

Postby jaminem » Thu Sep 20, 2018 10:11 am

Martin Walker wrote:
jaminem wrote:I'm in and ready to hear a wonderful change in my Hi fi system.

Looking forward to hearing your before and after audio recordings jaminem! :tongue:


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I'd love to but im afraid the recordings will simply be too good for your 'standard' ears...
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Re: Snake oil?

Postby jaminem » Thu Sep 20, 2018 10:13 am

Logarhythm wrote:
jaminem wrote:When this disc is excited by any external acoustic energy, it will resonate throughout the entire audible spectrum
Pah, you're an embarrassment to the audiophile community. Who cares about the audible spectrum?
If it doesn't work all the way up to 90kHz then it's not going to be of any benefit to my supertweeters or 192/24 recordings.
May as well be using standard mains power leads :roll:
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Ah now youve hit on something.

'Bat testing'

a universal standard for the audiphile community where the subjective quality of devices such as these are played to bats and their subsequent reaction defines the overall quality measure and price.

Comes at a premium obviously...
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Re: Snake oil?

Postby Sam Spoons » Thu Sep 20, 2018 10:38 am

This is clearly a genius idea since the whole concept is 'bats' :D
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Re: Snake oil?

Postby Logarhythm » Thu Sep 20, 2018 12:28 pm

jaminem wrote:'Bat testing'
I like th concept, but if you need the bats to do the listening then surely it implies that you yourself can't hear, and confidently talk about in vague but descriptive language, the difference?
Thus I fear it'll only result in you being pilloried by the audiophile community...
And it's almost scientific by audiophile standards so it'll never be acceptable :lol:
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Re: Snake oil?

Postby blinddrew » Thu Sep 20, 2018 12:40 pm

You misunderstand I fear. The bats are just for calibration. Obviously the true audiophile's hearing extends well beyond that of the mere bat, but you can only work with the tools you're given.
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Re: Snake oil?

Postby Wonks » Thu Sep 20, 2018 12:48 pm

However, getting hold of gold-plated, unidirectional oxygen-free bats can be quite a problem...
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Re: Snake oil?

Postby Wonks » Thu Sep 20, 2018 12:48 pm

(I had a 'bad gateway' page open up when trying to post. Someone needs to have a word with the gatekeeper).
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Re: Snake oil?

Postby Wonks » Thu Sep 20, 2018 12:50 pm

However I had forgotten about checking the Russ Andrews web pages...
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Re: Snake oil?

Postby jaminem » Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:09 pm

Wonks wrote:However, getting hold of gold-plated, unidirectional oxygen-free bats can be quite a problem...

...Not really, Russ Andrews does them...

They also do a higher end wood version...
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Re: Snake oil?

Postby Sam Spoons » Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:47 pm

I believe the latest innovation is to cross the unidirectional gold plated bats with Gryllidae, the resulting species is known as a "Cricket Bat" and is very useful for knocking some sense into any nearby audiophiles.
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Re: Snake oil?

Postby Rich Hanson » Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:50 pm

jaminem wrote:
Wonks wrote:However, getting hold of gold-plated, unidirectional oxygen-free bats can be quite a problem...

...Not really, Russ Andrews does them...

They also do a higher end wood version...

That sounds like it should be on a different sort of 'specialist' website...
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Re: Snake oil?

Postby jaminem » Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:57 pm

Sam Spoons wrote:I believe the latest innovation is to cross the unidirectional gold plated bats with Gryllidae, the resulting species is known as a "Cricket Bat" and is very useful for knocking some sense into any nearby audiophiles.

You have to treat the Cricket bat with Linsnake Oil.

Also available from Russ Andrews at £599 per pippet.
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Re: Snake oil?

Postby Sam Spoons » Thu Sep 20, 2018 2:47 pm

That'll be LinnSnake oil you mean :smirk:
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Re: Snake oil?

Postby Martin Walker » Thu Sep 20, 2018 10:44 pm

Sam Spoons wrote:That'll be LinnSnake oil you mean :smirk:

Oh, you just HAD to drum that in didn't you Sam :headbang:


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Re: Snake oil?

Postby Wonks » Fri Sep 21, 2018 7:20 am

That's it, naim naims.
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