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Re: Snake oil?

PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 3:07 pm
by Martin Walker
jaminem wrote:I'm in and ready to hear a wonderful change in my Hi fi system.

Looking forward to hearing your before and after audio recordings jaminem! :tongue:


Martin

Re: Snake oil?

PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 3:29 pm
by CS70
garrettendi wrote:I'm the first to admit I'm far from experienced, but how do people fall for that? Sounds like a pretty good scam.


The same way we fall for all others: a strong wish of something to be true, weak skills in how to distinguish what's true or not,and sufficient arrogance which does not allow you to improve them..

Re: Snake oil?

PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 4:01 pm
by Logarhythm
jaminem wrote:When this disc is excited by any external acoustic energy, it will resonate throughout the entire audible spectrum
Pah, you're an embarrassment to the audiophile community. Who cares about the audible spectrum?
If it doesn't work all the way up to 90kHz then it's not going to be of any benefit to my supertweeters or 192/24 recordings.
May as well be using standard mains power leads :roll:
:mrgreen:

Re: Snake oil?

PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 6:52 pm
by BobTheDog
CS70 wrote:
garrettendi wrote:I'm the first to admit I'm far from experienced, but how do people fall for that? Sounds like a pretty good scam.


The same way we fall for all others: a strong wish of something to be true, weak skills in how to distinguish what's true or not,and sufficient arrogance which does not allow you to improve them..

Now what does that remind me of?

Re: Snake oil?

PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 7:39 pm
by Martin Walker
Yes, that does sound a vaguely familiar scenario doesn't it? :mrgreen:

Re: Snake oil?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 11:11 am
by jaminem
Martin Walker wrote:
jaminem wrote:I'm in and ready to hear a wonderful change in my Hi fi system.

Looking forward to hearing your before and after audio recordings jaminem! :tongue:


Martin

I'd love to but im afraid the recordings will simply be too good for your 'standard' ears...

Re: Snake oil?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 11:13 am
by jaminem
Logarhythm wrote:
jaminem wrote:When this disc is excited by any external acoustic energy, it will resonate throughout the entire audible spectrum
Pah, you're an embarrassment to the audiophile community. Who cares about the audible spectrum?
If it doesn't work all the way up to 90kHz then it's not going to be of any benefit to my supertweeters or 192/24 recordings.
May as well be using standard mains power leads :roll:
:mrgreen:

Ah now youve hit on something.

'Bat testing'

a universal standard for the audiphile community where the subjective quality of devices such as these are played to bats and their subsequent reaction defines the overall quality measure and price.

Comes at a premium obviously...

Re: Snake oil?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 11:38 am
by Sam Spoons
This is clearly a genius idea since the whole concept is 'bats' :D

Re: Snake oil?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:28 pm
by Logarhythm
jaminem wrote:'Bat testing'
I like th concept, but if you need the bats to do the listening then surely it implies that you yourself can't hear, and confidently talk about in vague but descriptive language, the difference?
Thus I fear it'll only result in you being pilloried by the audiophile community...
And it's almost scientific by audiophile standards so it'll never be acceptable :lol:

Re: Snake oil?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:40 pm
by blinddrew
You misunderstand I fear. The bats are just for calibration. Obviously the true audiophile's hearing extends well beyond that of the mere bat, but you can only work with the tools you're given.

Re: Snake oil?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:48 pm
by Wonks
However, getting hold of gold-plated, unidirectional oxygen-free bats can be quite a problem...

Re: Snake oil?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:48 pm
by Wonks
(I had a 'bad gateway' page open up when trying to post. Someone needs to have a word with the gatekeeper).

Re: Snake oil?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:50 pm
by Wonks
However I had forgotten about checking the Russ Andrews web pages...

Re: Snake oil?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 2:09 pm
by jaminem
Wonks wrote:However, getting hold of gold-plated, unidirectional oxygen-free bats can be quite a problem...

...Not really, Russ Andrews does them...

They also do a higher end wood version...

Re: Snake oil?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 2:47 pm
by Sam Spoons
I believe the latest innovation is to cross the unidirectional gold plated bats with Gryllidae, the resulting species is known as a "Cricket Bat" and is very useful for knocking some sense into any nearby audiophiles.

Re: Snake oil?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 2:50 pm
by Rich Hanson
jaminem wrote:
Wonks wrote:However, getting hold of gold-plated, unidirectional oxygen-free bats can be quite a problem...

...Not really, Russ Andrews does them...

They also do a higher end wood version...

That sounds like it should be on a different sort of 'specialist' website...

Re: Snake oil?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 2:57 pm
by jaminem
Sam Spoons wrote:I believe the latest innovation is to cross the unidirectional gold plated bats with Gryllidae, the resulting species is known as a "Cricket Bat" and is very useful for knocking some sense into any nearby audiophiles.

You have to treat the Cricket bat with Linsnake Oil.

Also available from Russ Andrews at £599 per pippet.

Re: Snake oil?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 3:47 pm
by Sam Spoons
That'll be LinnSnake oil you mean :smirk:

Re: Snake oil?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 11:44 pm
by Martin Walker
Sam Spoons wrote:That'll be LinnSnake oil you mean :smirk:

Oh, you just HAD to drum that in didn't you Sam :headbang:


Martin

Re: Snake oil?

PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 8:20 am
by Wonks
That's it, naim naims.