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Current DIY Acoustic Panel Design?

Postby Jez Corbett » Tue Dec 18, 2018 4:34 pm

Just been browsing through this subform the last hour or so as I'm looking to make some simple panels to fix the worst issues in my home setup, but it seems all the stickied threads are very out of date - sadly none of the Links in Zukan's thread work any more, and many of the projects never finished :(

Just wondering where I can find a good design for rockwool based panel traps? Got the assistance of a carpenter because I never had an affinity for it and got a D in GCSE CDT (i.e. 'Woodwork'), but not sure what the best approach is these days other than 'stick a slab of rockwool in a frame and cover it in fabric'.
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Re: Current DIY Acoustic Panel Design?

Postby blinddrew » Tue Dec 18, 2018 5:30 pm

Jez Corbett wrote:not sure what the best approach is these days other than 'stick a slab of rockwool in a frame and cover it in fabric'.
That's pretty much it as I understand it. Cheap, acoustically porous, fabric for the back, something nice looking and easy to get neat, like Cara, for the front. Robert is your mother's brother.
Mount away from the wall for better bass control and across the corners to tame things there a bit. Make sure you've got your mirror points covered.
Then listen/measure again and see how things are shaping up.
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Re: Current DIY Acoustic Panel Design?

Postby Luke W » Tue Dec 18, 2018 6:12 pm

As above, that approach pretty much covers it for simple panels. When I made my panels up I built one frame to sit around the rockwool, streched the fabric right around to the back of that and stapled it to give a nice flat, square finish to the front of the panel, and then framed up the outside with something more decorative separately.

I used the Camira Cara fabric that blinddrew mentions, there are cheaper options about but it gives a lovely finish, and is very easy to work with. I managed to get a pretty good result having never worked with fabric of any sort before.

I've got a load of pictures I can dig out if they're of any use.
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Re: Current DIY Acoustic Panel Design?

Postby Sam Spoons » Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:08 pm

That's how I did most of mine, using slabs of Rockwool RW3. 1200 x 600 x 50mm with a density of 60kg.m3. I've linked to the Studiospares page below but shop round as I got mine much cheaper from another supplier.

I made frames from 2 x 1 PAR and wedged the Rockwool inside then covered the front in Cara fabric and the back in decorators dust sheet material from B&Q. The bass traps were different as I based them on Studiotips Super Chunks.

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https://www.studiospares.com/Studio-Gear/Sound-Insulation/Rockwool-RW3_401982.htm?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI4rajwvmp3wIVwrztCh0d-g4qEAQYBCABEgIIo_D_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
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Re: Current DIY Acoustic Panel Design?

Postby James Perrett » Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:21 pm

Sam Spoons wrote:I've linked to the Studiospares page below but shop round as I got mine much cheaper from another supplier.

Studiospares might be the best source at the moment - when I looked a few weeks ago the cheaper suppliers had none in stock and all mentioned delivery problems. Studiospares still had stock.
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Re: Current DIY Acoustic Panel Design?

Postby Luke W » Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:37 pm

I'm having that problem at the moment as well. When I built my first batch I got a load quite a bit cheaper from a builders merchant, now I'm looking at making some more up they don't have any stock and aren't looking too different on price.
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Re: Current DIY Acoustic Panel Design?

Postby blinddrew » Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:45 pm

I blame brexit!


(ducks and runs for cover!) ;)
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Re: Current DIY Acoustic Panel Design?

Postby Sam Spoons » Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:28 am

I only record folk music, will Rockwool panels work in my studio? :?
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Re: Current DIY Acoustic Panel Design?

Postby blinddrew » Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:48 am

They will, but they take about 2.5 clicks off your authenticity. You might need to add an extra whistle part to compensate.

Metal pads definitely won't work.
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Re: Current DIY Acoustic Panel Design?

Postby Wonks » Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:08 am

You could always use Folkrockwool panels.
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Re: Current DIY Acoustic Panel Design?

Postby jaminem » Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:15 am

I get my rockwool from BSO...

https://www.building-supplies-online.co ... -slab.html

then to go for 12-14cm wood strip to leave a gap behind, and drill out the sides with a large hole cutter to keep the weight down, useful in easing ceiling cloud based paranoia..

I also used Cara....
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Re: Current DIY Acoustic Panel Design?

Postby MarkPAman » Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:18 am

Sam, cover the front with flock wallpaper Image
It has the right letters......
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Re: Current DIY Acoustic Panel Design?

Postby Jez Corbett » Tue Jan 08, 2019 7:16 pm

Hmm ... are the GIK bass traps basically the same as homebrew panels, or something different?

https://gikacoustics.co.uk/product/gik- ... echnology/

At these prices, it might be hard to justify getting them made myself.
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Re: Current DIY Acoustic Panel Design?

Postby Sam Spoons » Tue Jan 08, 2019 7:20 pm

I believe they use the same materials as the ones I built myself. Probably, better made and more professionally finished though :smirk: . They do look excellent value for money but I reckon I saved 35%+ by building my own.
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Re: Current DIY Acoustic Panel Design?

Postby James Perrett » Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:32 pm

I did a job recently where I built 8 panels and fitted them for about the same price as 8 of the full size GIK panels. DIY is certainly cheaper provided you are making a reasonable number of panels. If you don't want to DIY then keep looking as I'm sure I've seen 1200x600 panels for around £50 (it was either Studiospares or Ebay).
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Re: Current DIY Acoustic Panel Design?

Postby Luke W » Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:25 am

James Perrett wrote:DIY is certainly cheaper provided you are making a reasonable number of panels.

Definitely. Also, owning or having access to the tools/space to work with (although it's not a huge amount of kit really) is a consideration. I've built quite a lot of panels for my room now, and the shape and size of the room meant that some of the panels themselves were rather strange shapes and sizes. I wouldn't have got the overall finish I wanted with standard panels (at least not without a lot of messing around), and getting things custom made would have been expensive. But I already had the kit and a fair amount of experience in woodworking, so the whole process was actually quite enjoyable, which may not be the case for some people!
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Re: Current DIY Acoustic Panel Design?

Postby Mixedup » Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:15 am

Jez Corbett wrote: sadly none of the Links in Zukan's thread work any more

Zukan has found and republished his DIY acoustic panel series...
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Re: Current DIY Acoustic Panel Design?

Postby Martin Walker » Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:55 am

Mixedup wrote:
Jez Corbett wrote: sadly none of the Links in Zukan's thread work any more

Zukan has found and republished his DIY acoustic panel series...

Mind you, he had an expert woodworking person on hand to build them to that standard (take a bow Max of this parish!)


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Re: Current DIY Acoustic Panel Design?

Postby Watchmaker » Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:20 pm

blinddrew wrote:Robert is your mother's brother.
:lol: dude...
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Re: Current DIY Acoustic Panel Design?

Postby blinddrew » Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:11 pm

Mixedup wrote:
Jez Corbett wrote: sadly none of the Links in Zukan's thread work any more

Zukan has found and republished his DIY acoustic panel series...

And even if you have no interest in the subject you should read the first couple of paragraphs for the writing itself. :D
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