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Re: A Long List of Compromises - new music space

Postby blinddrew » Thu Aug 22, 2019 10:36 pm

I'm already planning on one for that purpose. :)
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Re: A Long List of Compromises - new music space

Postby blinddrew » Sat Aug 24, 2019 8:10 pm

Today, Oi 'ave bin mostly caulkin'
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Re: A Long List of Compromises - new music space

Postby Wonks » Sat Aug 24, 2019 8:11 pm

J...j...j.. jive caulkin'?
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Re: A Long List of Compromises - new music space

Postby blinddrew » Sat Aug 24, 2019 8:28 pm

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Re: A Long List of Compromises - new music space

Postby Folderol » Sat Aug 24, 2019 9:12 pm

Caulkin' 'ell!
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Re: A Long List of Compromises - new music space

Postby blinddrew » Sun Aug 25, 2019 11:25 am

Something tells me this space is going to require a lot of treatment!
https://youtu.be/pJnGeDsly6M
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Re: A Long List of Compromises - new music space

Postby Wonks » Sun Aug 25, 2019 11:30 am

Or else you just use it as a reverb chamber!
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Re: A Long List of Compromises - new music space

Postby ManFromGlass » Sun Aug 25, 2019 12:49 pm

Looks like the holodeck on Startrek!
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Re: A Long List of Compromises - new music space

Postby blinddrew » Sun Aug 25, 2019 1:02 pm

I'll have to take your word for that, but given the sealed metal nature of that environment I suspect that had a lot of acoustic treatment as well!
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Re: A Long List of Compromises - new music space

Postby blinddrew » Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:54 pm

Paint and electrics today, coupled with the realisation that I ballsed when I did the specification and have definitely made any potential sound-proofing worse in doing so. Which is more than a little vexing.
Anyway it looks like this:
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Floor and finishing on thursday, probably with a couple of difficult conversations along the way.
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Re: A Long List of Compromises - new music space

Postby Folderol » Mon Sep 09, 2019 8:02 pm

Details please!
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Re: A Long List of Compromises - new music space

Postby blinddrew » Mon Sep 09, 2019 8:50 pm

I suspect a couple of people may have spotted it in the previous photos but have sympathetically shaken their heads and remained silent.
Power sockets/light swith. The basic spec has standard box units that screw to the wall. If you choose the acoustic pack (or the standard plastering pack) for aesthetic reasons the default changes to the semi-flush fittings. Which means cutting a hole in the additional ply-green-glue-plasterboard layer... :headbang: :headbang: :headbang:

and a few more :headbang: :headbang: :headbang:
for good measure.
Can't believe I didn't think that through. Will slap a bit of caulk around things in the short term but longer term I'll need to take the boxes out, build up those holes with something similar, recaulk and then surface mount them (as I should have done originally).
To say that I am angry at myself is something of an understatement. I will also be providing some feedback to the company about the defaults on their configuration tool.
But it's my fault. Longer term I might do the whole thing with another layer of acoustic plasterboard anyway so that might be when I do a proper fix.
So, well, not a happy bunny.

Other interesting conversations with the supplier relate to other, run-of-the-mill, non-acoustic matters.
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Re: A Long List of Compromises - new music space

Postby Folderol » Mon Sep 09, 2019 9:10 pm

You might like to consider dado-rail style sockets. They are surface mount and have three continuous sections. Use the centre one for power and the others for data/control. Something like this
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Re: A Long List of Compromises - new music space

Postby blinddrew » Mon Sep 09, 2019 9:16 pm

It's an option, but would interfere with my plans for internal treatment.
I'm happy with where my power and lighting is - just not how its been implemented.
I haven't punched anything yet though, so I'm taking that as a positive.
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Re: A Long List of Compromises - new music space

Postby blinddrew » Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:03 pm

Floored (and flawed).
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Now I just need to try and minimise the effect of my earlier collosal f*** up and then start building my treatment.

Question for the assembled experts, what's the difference between acoustic plasterboard and normal plasterboard? (other than the price)
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Re: A Long List of Compromises - new music space

Postby Wonks » Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:19 pm

It's thicker and more dense due to slightly different additives to the gypsum core. More mass = more sound absorption.
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Re: A Long List of Compromises - new music space

Postby blinddrew » Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:54 pm

Thank you. :thumbup:
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Re: A Long List of Compromises - new music space

Postby mellowsouls » Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:19 pm

Looking nice and fresh!

What is your ceiling height internally?
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Re: A Long List of Compromises - new music space

Postby blinddrew » Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:16 pm

Not actually measured it with the floor in but it should go from 1.95 to about 2.25. So an average of 2.1m.
It just, just, fits in the EBU guidelines.
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Re: A Long List of Compromises - new music space

Postby jaminem » Fri Sep 13, 2019 3:15 pm

Drew you can get intumescent acoustic stuff like plasticine to go on the back of your flush mount sockets. which may help...

https://www.firesealsdirect.co.uk/acous ... nXEALw_wcB

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