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New (imperfect) Garden Studio Build

Postby Blott » Thu Sep 03, 2020 12:08 am

Hi,
Earlier in the year I posted on this forum requesting asking advice for air vents in a new garden studio build - my thanks to those who responded.
Well I'm pleased to say the build in now under way! :)
I'll be uploading images to show its progress to those who might be interested.
I'm hoping that it'll be helpful to those (like me), who's space is limited and who's budget isn't tens of thousands of pounds and therefore cannot have the perfect 'room within a room' design.
It will also have a secondary function as a home office.
So I've have had to concede acoustically to accommodate my surroundings and more importantly...to meet the wife's aesthetics demands.
So this will be an imperfect & flawed studio build, with lots of compromises and things that could have perhaps been done better.
It wont be totally sound proof but I'm confident that it'll still be good enough to be creative in without disturbing neighbours and certainly a much better environment than the spare room I currently occupy.
It's not the biggest studio, with approx internals of 15.6ft x 9ft, but this kind of build is probably a more realistic option for many of us than the really impressive studios that are often documented online (and of which I'm extremely envious). :)
Basic make up of this build will be foundations consisting of 100mm of stone, 100 mm of celotex and 100 mm of concrete.
Footings will be 600 x 600mm with an outside skin of solid concrete blocks pointed to a finish to a total height of 2.5m.
There will be a 4x2 internal wall with a 3 inch celotex cavity, 4 inch of rock wool between timbers, plywood and acoustic plasterboard, followed by a skim to a finish.
This is mirrored in the ceiling area too.
There will be a second internal fire door to help minimise sound leakage.
So that's the basics...images to follow soon. :)
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Re: New (imperfect) Garden Studio Build

Postby zenguitar » Thu Sep 03, 2020 12:46 am

Good luck and lets hope all goes smoothly :)

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Re: New (imperfect) Garden Studio Build

Postby Blott » Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:34 am

Thanks Zenguitar! :)

Okay as promised here are the images for the build so far, starting with the old greenhouse that was there before and which was dangerously dilapidated...

https://photos.app.goo.gl/aFBtdoCJAe11HzSk8

So that's where we are at the moment, we should be finished (hopefully) in the next 4 weeks and I'll document the rest of the build including the internals when we have made further significant progress. :)
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Re: New (imperfect) Garden Studio Build

Postby Folderol » Thu Sep 03, 2020 6:59 am

Best of luck with this.
(still far better than anything I've got)
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Re: New (imperfect) Garden Studio Build

Postby blinddrew » Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:10 am

As someone else who also took the 'something good is better than nothing perfect' route, I reckon you'll be very happy with it. :)
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Re: New (imperfect) Garden Studio Build

Postby Blott » Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:17 pm

Folderol wrote:Best of luck with this.
(still far better than anything I've got)

Thanks :)
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Re: New (imperfect) Garden Studio Build

Postby Blott » Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:18 pm

blinddrew wrote:As someone else who also took the 'something good is better than nothing perfect' route, I reckon you'll be very happy with it. :)
Thanks, I'm sure I will.
I've just watched the video and your studio setup and it looks great! :)
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Re: New (imperfect) Garden Studio Build

Postby Blott » Sun Oct 04, 2020 12:36 am

Hi,

Well the build has progressed quite a bit now, though not without some snags...

There was a delay on some of the materials for the roof and so construction hasn't happened in the order you'd expect - that is to say we started on parts of the interior before we even had a roof!

Fortunately we had dry weather at the time so it hasn't been an issue, just didn't want you to think that we planned it that way...we did not! :)

Secondly the steel security door we ordered arrived with defects and the replacement (which also has defects) has only just arrived. So (again) we'd planned to have the external door fitted by now but it's probably going to be one of the last things done now. :(.

All things considered though, the build is going okay.

Weak points from a soundproofing point of view are definitely the two windows - even though they are made from triple glazed, toughened glass.

This was a just a necessary compromise for the 'office' end of the studio.

Most of my studio hours for music will be in the evenings, so I've two 'plug in' (excuse the pun) sound absorbing frames of 100MM Rockwool that will slot into the window bays to help reduce noise leakage in the evenings - these will simply pull out again to allow a little natural light when I'm doing work/office stuff during the day.

Anyway, for anyone interested extra photos showing the build have now been uploaded and can be viewed by clicking the link below...

https://photos.app.goo.gl/aFBtdoCJAe11HzSk8
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Re: New (imperfect) Garden Studio Build

Postby blinddrew » Sun Oct 04, 2020 9:13 am

Shaping up very nicely. I recognise a tube of AC50 there as well. ;)
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Re: New (imperfect) Garden Studio Build

Postby mellowsouls » Fri Oct 09, 2020 7:30 pm

Oh, man - this is basically what I’m doing, only I’ve been plagued by setbacks! My foundation has been in for over 12 months. Hopefully starting on the walls soon...

What is your roof construction? Any extra layers of mass loaded vinyl? Do the blocks of the wall go up around the joists? That’s a weak point I’m still pondering.
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Re: New (imperfect) Garden Studio Build

Postby Blott » Sat Oct 10, 2020 2:38 am

blinddrew wrote:Shaping up very nicely. I recognise a tube of AC50 there as well. ;)

Woah - a good spot, you have eyes like a hawk! :)
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Re: New (imperfect) Garden Studio Build

Postby Blott » Sat Oct 10, 2020 2:57 am

mellowsouls wrote:Oh, man - this is basically what I’m doing, only I’ve been plagued by setbacks! My foundation has been in for over 12 months. Hopefully starting on the walls soon...

What is your roof construction? Any extra layers of mass loaded vinyl? Do the blocks of the wall go up around the joists? That’s a weak point I’m still pondering.

Hi,

It's a flat roof consisting of 7x2 C24 timber with a 3 inch to 0 fall on top of which 18 mm OSB is fixed to complete the deck.
A 3 layer torch system felt is then fitted to the OSB which gives a claimed 30 year protection! :)

The concrete blocks do not go around the joists, rather the joists sit on top of the blocks and the roof on top of that. If we'd have built the blocks higher we'd have been over the 2.5m threshold we had to work in to comply with planning regs.

Inside its the same as everywhere else, i.e a 4x2 internal frame with a 3 inch celotex cavity, 4 inch of rock wool between timbers, 10mm plywood and 15mm acoustic plasterboard, followed by a plastered skim to finish.

This WILL NOT be a soundproof build - it should however be a room that suppresses the sound leakage enough that I don't bother anyone.
It should prevent external noises from being too intrusive too (at least that's what I'm hoping)! :)
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Re: New (imperfect) Garden Studio Build

Postby Blott » Sat Oct 10, 2020 3:14 am

Hi,

Just to add the external steel security door is fitted now.

It's not right, but it was turning into a saga trying to get one which wasn't imperfect and I just don't have the time to fight for a third replacement door now. :(

All that remains to be done is to fit the second internal door, complete the flooring, skirting boards, external facias and 2nd fitting of electrics - all of which should be done by the 17th Oct.

I'll upload more images when I get a chance, but it'll probably be the end of October before I have time.

I've kept (a poor iPhone filmed) video diary of the build too and I plan to upload this on youtube before Christmas in the hope it proves helpful to anyone else.

I'm hoping it'll show that you can get a useable sound treated studio room for a reasonable cost.

Prior to this build I had approached a couple of companies who specialised in building garden studios (including one located just a few miles away) and their quotes were 80 - 100% more than my spend on this build has been.

At my last home I had a bespoke wooden garden studio built which was great, but I'm hoping this will be a little better, although it has the disadvantage of trying to double as an office which my previous studio build did not, so it's not really fair to directly compare them.

I'll be candid about the results good or bad - so fingers are crossed!

If it doesn't turn out to be as good as I'd hoped I'll tell you that too - hopefully though it should be good. :)

We'll find out for sure in another week. :)
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Re: New (imperfect) Garden Studio Build

Postby blinddrew » Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:30 am

Fingers crossed.
One thing that I've discovered is the value of just having a dedicated space to create. Acoustically treated/sound-proofed or not.
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Re: New (imperfect) Garden Studio Build

Postby mellowsouls » Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:54 am

blinddrew wrote:Fingers crossed.
One thing that I've discovered is the value of just having a dedicated space to create. Acoustically treated/sound-proofed or not.
:)

Oh, absolutely! As soon as we’d decided to do a build, little pieces of domestic normality started creeping in to my hitherto dedicated music room in the house. Now there’s a sofa, tellybox, and my youngest with his face permanently glued to a games console in there! My monitors had to be picked away too, dagnammit.
Can’t wait to get going again with my own build.

Love the way this one’s come together so quickly for you - looks nice.
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