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Postby djsicko » Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:24 am

Hi,

so, I play no instrument (actually, I can make some guitar chords, but I never had music classes, so I know nothing about music theory), but I'm a songwriter and I'm able to compose several songs writing the lyrics and the song melody (vocally).

I'm looking for a tool that can help me create music, not sure if what I'm looking exists, but I have tried already different softwares where you have preset sounds and instruments and then with a keyboard you can play the notes, but I do not want to play notes... what I would like is to have a preset of riffs that I could then change their pitch, their tempo.. so that I could then make my melodies on top of it... so basically, a tool for someone that has no knowledge of music theory and does not want to spend too much time learning on how to operate the tool.

Note: please do not tell me to find a band... I do have already a band, but I want something for my project solo...


thanks and regards,

Sérgio
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Re: Tools to create music

Postby Sam Spoons » Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:46 am

Band In A Box?

http://www.pgmusic.com

Or, on a Mac, Garage Band is probably as close as you'll get.
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Re: Tools to create music

Postby djsicko » Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:01 pm

Sam Spoons wrote:Band In A Box?

http://www.pgmusic.com

Or, on a Mac, Garage Band is probably as close as you'll get.


but it would require me to know about chord progressions and so on... right?
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Re: Tools to create music

Postby blinddrew » Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:11 pm

What about some of the phrase-based sample libraries?
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Re: Tools to create music

Postby Sam Spoons » Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:44 pm

djsicko wrote:
Sam Spoons wrote:Band In A Box?

http://www.pgmusic.com

Or, on a Mac, Garage Band is probably as close as you'll get.


but it would require me to know about chord progressions and so on... right?

Yes but I can't see how you can "create music" without, you (or somebody else) have to decide which chords you want to use to accompany the melody you have written.

You say you can 'make some guitar chords', many of the greatest songwriters in the history of pop/rock could do no more than that.
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Re: Tools to create music

Postby desmond » Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:07 pm

It sounds a bit like "How can I make XX, without needing to go to the effort of learning how to make XX"...

I would suggest that you find a collaborator to make music with, someone who has the skills you need but currently lack.

Otherwise, there really is no substitute for "learning the notes", and if you're serious, and enjoy it, none of the time spent learning and improving is ever wasted...
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Re: Tools to create music

Postby djsicko » Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:05 pm

desmond wrote:It sounds a bit like "How can I make XX, without needing to go to the effort of learning how to make XX"...

I would suggest that you find a collaborator to make music with, someone who has the skills you need but currently lack.

Otherwise, there really is no substitute for "learning the notes", and if you're serious, and enjoy it, none of the time spent learning and improving is ever wasted...

That's easy to say, for information I have tried to learn, but it didn't work... and regarding being serious, is not relevant, I'm looking for something that I can use as a base then without requiring too much knowledge, I can twist here and there some settings until I believe I have found a good base for my song....

So please do not judge me... if you can think of anything that can help on the creation process, I appreciate your help...

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Re: Tools to create music

Postby Sam Spoons » Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:48 pm

How about this https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/melodyminer/id1030667318?mt=8 if you have an iPad or this http://www.chordbuff.com then copy the chords into BIAB or Garage Band?
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Re: Tools to create music

Postby Agharta » Thu Feb 08, 2018 4:53 pm

Maybe this might help and there's a trial version so nothing to lose:
https://www.pluginboutique.com/products/3933-Scaler
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Re: Tools to create music

Postby djsicko » Thu Feb 08, 2018 5:02 pm

Sam Spoons wrote:How about this https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/melodyminer/id1030667318?mt=8 if you have an iPad or this http://www.chordbuff.com then copy the chords into BIAB or Garage Band?

thanks, I can even try to play those chords on the guitar.... this is really a helper... not what I was looking but still will help on the creative process that's for sure
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Re: Tools to create music

Postby djsicko » Thu Feb 08, 2018 5:06 pm

Agharta wrote:Maybe this might help and there's a trial version so nothing to lose:
https://www.pluginboutique.com/products/3933-Scaler

thanks, I will give it a look as well
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Re: Tools to create music

Postby Sam Spoons » Thu Feb 08, 2018 5:13 pm

It's always a good sign if a song sounds good performed in a stripped down format e.g. acoustic guitar to piano and one voice. If it captures your listeners interest like that you probably have something worthwhile on your hands.

Good luck :D

P.S. You really should learn a little about chord sequences, even if it's just finding the chords to your favourite songs and listening to what they sound like in relation to each other and the melody. It will equip you much better for songwriting than getting a computer program to do it for you.
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Re: Tools to create music

Postby djsicko » Thu Feb 08, 2018 6:08 pm

Sam Spoons wrote:P.S. You really should learn a little about chord sequences, even if it's just finding the chords to your favourite songs and listening to what they sound like in relation to each other and the melody. It will equip you much better for songwriting than getting a computer program to do it for you.

thanks again and I will give it a try....
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