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Playing 6 equal notes over a 4/4 beat - what's it called???

Postby aekoi » Wed Feb 03, 2016 1:15 pm

Hi there,

There is a technical term for the act of playing 6 equal notes over a 4/4 bar, effectively 2 triplet groups which each span 2 crotchets. However I have forgotten what this term is, and its driving me mad. Can anyone shine a light on this?

Thanks for any help you can give.
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Re: Playing 6 equal notes over a 4/4 beat - what's it called???

Postby blinddrew » Wed Feb 03, 2016 1:59 pm

In my case, "getting it wrong"...
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Re: Playing 6 equal notes over a 4/4 beat - what's it called???

Postby AndyClarke » Wed Feb 03, 2016 2:01 pm

Or sextuplet (hurr hurr - sex!)
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Re: Playing 6 equal notes over a 4/4 beat - what's it called???

Postby aekoi » Wed Feb 03, 2016 2:09 pm

Thanks for the quick responses.

For years I have thought this 6-notes-over-4/4 thing was called an 'anacrusis' and I have a vague memory of a hand written music poster in a music school citing 'America' from West Side Story as containing an example of this.

However, I now know that an anacrusis is the formal term for a 'pick-up', which I always called a pick-up ... didn't know there was a posh word for it. And today I found out that 'America' is in 6/8, so it's not really a tuplet over 2 crotchets.

So ... a little bit of knowledge.....

Thanks again everyone.
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Re: Playing 6 equal notes over a 4/4 beat - what's it called???

Postby ginge6000 » Wed Feb 03, 2016 2:49 pm

aekoi wrote:Thanks for the quick responses.

For years I have thought this 6-notes-over-4/4 thing was called an 'anacrusis' and I have a vague memory of a hand written music poster in a music school citing 'America' from West Side Story as containing an example of this.

However, I now know that an anacrusis is the formal term for a 'pick-up', which I always called a pick-up ... didn't know there was a posh word for it. And today I found out that 'America' is in 6/8, so it's not really a tuplet over 2 crotchets.

So ... a little bit of knowledge.....

Thanks again everyone.

Actually, America is alternating bars of 6/8 & 3/4. Both have 6 quavers but the emphasis is different 123 123 1,2,3
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Re: Playing 6 equal notes over a 4/4 beat - what's it called???

Postby shufflebeat » Wed Feb 03, 2016 5:11 pm

AndyClarke wrote:Tuplet

Isn't that a young sheep?
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Re: Playing 6 equal notes over a 4/4 beat - what's it called???

Postby Exalted Wombat » Wed Feb 03, 2016 10:38 pm

aekoi wrote:However, I now know that an anacrusis is the formal term for a 'pick-up', which I always called a pick-up ... didn't know there was a posh word for it. And today I found out that 'America' is in 6/8, so it's not really a tuplet over 2 crotchets.

A "pick-up" is now called "grooming", and you have to be very careful.
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Re: Playing 6 equal notes over a 4/4 beat - what's it called???

Postby tacitus » Thu Feb 18, 2016 12:10 pm

Actually, while you could notate 6 crotchets in the time of four as a sextuplet, it's more usual to do it as two lots of triplet crotchets - instead of one bracket over the whole bar with a 6 on it, you'd have two, each with a three on it. Functionally identical.
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Re: Playing 6 equal notes over a 4/4 beat - what's it called???

Postby The Korff » Thu Feb 18, 2016 1:10 pm

Writing it as two triplets would probably imply a slight accent on beats 1 and 3 too, which might help reinforce the time signature a bit.
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Re: Playing 6 equal notes over a 4/4 beat - what's it called???

Postby Ariosto » Fri Mar 04, 2016 6:31 pm

It's easy to play 6 notes in 4/4 time. You just count in two and play a triplet on each beat. (i.e. Don't count in 4).
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Re: Playing 6 equal notes over a 4/4 beat - what's it called???

Postby DC-Choppah » Sat Mar 12, 2016 10:26 pm

ginge6000 wrote:
aekoi wrote:Thanks for the quick responses.

For years I have thought this 6-notes-over-4/4 thing was called an 'anacrusis' and I have a vague memory of a hand written music poster in a music school citing 'America' from West Side Story as containing an example of this.

However, I now know that an anacrusis is the formal term for a 'pick-up', which I always called a pick-up ... didn't know there was a posh word for it. And today I found out that 'America' is in 6/8, so it's not really a tuplet over 2 crotchets.

So ... a little bit of knowledge.....

Thanks again everyone.

Actually, America is alternating bars of 6/8 & 3/4. Both have 6 quavers but the emphasis is different 123 123 1,2,3

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