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Does anyone know what this instrument is?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 5:15 pm
by Baldo
Can someone tell me what this string instrument is please on this track from 1.06 to 1.20. I would like to find some loops or similar sounding tracks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHcu226BZwE

It sounds like a japanese koto but I am not sure.

Are there also other instruments like this that I should be looking at?

many thanks.

Re: Does anyone know what this instrument is?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 5:47 pm
by The Elf
Sounds like one of those hammered dulcimer-type thingies.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 6:00 pm
by BJG145
^^^ reckon so.

Recently been listening to House of Waters - amazing dulcimer player.

https://youtu.be/Xb3qEG8N_E4?t=63

Re: Does anyone know what this instrument is?

PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 12:56 pm
by Guest
I think it could be a shamisen.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 3:17 pm
by Sam Spoons
A Koto I reckon, (as the OP said) a Japanese hammered dulcimer. It's definitely hammered not plucked either way and the playing style doesn't match up with a Western Hammered Dulcimer. The instrument playing after it sounds plucked so maybe that's a Shamisen, the bends/glisses would be impossible on a Koto but the non-sounding string resonances evident in the 'Koto' part would not be there on a Shamisen.

Re: Does anyone know what this instrument is?

PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 5:24 pm
by BJG145
Sam Spoons wrote:A Koto I reckon, (as the OP said) a Japanese hammered dulcimer. It's definitely hammered not plucked.

But the koto is plucked...

Re: Does anyone know what this instrument is?

PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 5:48 pm
by Sam Spoons
You are right, BG :blush: I still reckon the instrument in question is hammered not plucked so.........

one of these maybe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFmFydkRMeI

Re: Does anyone know what this instrument is?

PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:12 pm
by kinglouis
Its hammered so unlikely to be a koto. More likely to be a dulcimer / cimbalom played in an appropriately far eastern style to suit the track.

For virtual instruments, Logic has a pretty decent hammered dulcimer, East West Ra has a great cimbalon, but there are countless very good sampled instruments of either instrument from a wide variety of libraries.

Or you can pick up an actual hammered dulcimer (not to be confused with the Appalachian dulcimer played so beautifully by Joni Mitchell, which is a totally different instrument) for not a massive sum. The only problem with them is they take a long time to tune! But they are worth it for their gorgeous playability.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 7:39 pm
by innerchord
Can anyone be certain that it's hammered and not plucked?
It sounds plucked to me; the koto is plucked and not hammered, so I say it's a koto (albeit a rather thin, bright and metallic-sounding one) :)
Don't be fooled be the tremolo notes, which are common in koto playing.
And listen to the slap of the lowest string played. That's plucked, not struck.

Re: Does anyone know what this instrument is?

PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 7:59 pm
by Sam Spoons
We are all making our best guess but there appear to be two lead instruments in that recording, the first, playing from 0' 53" util 2' 22" sounds hammered to me, the other, playing from 2' 26" 'till 3' 56" sounds like it is plucked then the first reappears at 4' 00" 'till 5' 10".

A review of the album on Amazon says :- "The liner notes say "all music composed, arranged, performed, produced, mixed, and recorded by Guy Sweens". The instruments that he plays on this CD include the sitar, dulcimer, koto, santur, tampura, malay bunga seruling flute, shakuhachi flute, indian bass and alto flute, strings, tabla, bass guitar, various percussion, tibetan bowls, and indian vocals."

I suspect the second instrument is sitar, the first, dulcimer (hammered, though the notes don't specify that).

Guy seems very active still, maybe an email to him would answer the question (please put us out of our collective misery if he does give an informative answer) http://www.guysweens.com/home

Re: Does anyone know what this instrument is?

PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2019 12:09 pm
by georgeduke
For me it sounds like a type of dulcimer but not 100%.
Very strange, I never saw this kind of instrument.

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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2019 5:49 pm
by Eddy Deegan
I'm not sure what it is either but it reminds me very much of an interesting looking contraption played in Jarre's China Concerts here: https://youtu.be/uTyAtn177zo?t=2637

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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2019 7:38 pm
by BJG145
Eddy Deegan wrote:reminds me very much of an interesting looking contraption

Is that a Guzheng...? Makes me want to rewatch House of Flying Daggers.

Re: Does anyone know what this instrument is?

PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2019 7:59 pm
by Eddy Deegan
BJG145 wrote:Is that a Guzheng...?

Nice identify! Googling pictures of one I think it probably is. Whether or not it's the instrument in the recording referenced by the OP I don't know but it certainly sounds somewhat similar to me (given the relative differences in fidelity, genre and processing).

Still, there are a number of instruments that have sounds in those general areas so my jury remains out ;)