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Re: Automatic music : is it possible ?

Postby MOF » Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:47 pm

Here for example I tried to imitate the clarinet, but unfortunately the result is not realistic :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0bb59ss_pw

That's why I'm looking for real musicians who can interpret my music.
In its current form it sounds like the ‘composer’ has got ADHD, maybe if it was slowed down a bit it might improve but it still sounds like computer generated music, going off in all directions, never seeming to settle down into an obvious melody.
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Re: Automatic music : is it possible ?

Postby Rich Hanson » Thu Jul 16, 2020 9:08 pm

Speaking as a clarinet player, that sounds so obviously like a clarinet sample and used by someone that hasn't tried to vary the sound in the manner in which a live player would. The vibrato on the longer notes is horrible too, so obviously from a LFO.

I don't know what sample library was used here, but there are libraries that can produce much more lifelike results, but even these require effort on behalf of the user. You can't just bang in the notes, you have to understand how they might be played.
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Re: Automatic music : is it possible ?

Postby music-engine » Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:36 am

I totally agree.
And that's why I made an example of how I couldn't imitate real sounds.
After all, my intention is not to do this because I work mainly on the search for harmonic structures and which scales can be used, then obviously the search for algorithms that can express melodies that make sense at the level of perception.

I would love to make real musicians play these pieces, even if when composing something I don't take into account the technique of the instrument and this is a problem.

For example I think that this piece cannot be played by a real clarinet because there is not enough time to breathe between one note sequence and another.
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Re: Automatic music : is it possible ?

Postby MOF » Fri Jul 17, 2020 4:51 pm

For example I think that this piece cannot be played by a real clarinet because there is not enough time to breathe between one note sequence and another
I wondered about that but I think you’re just OK in that regard.
I still can’t latch on to an obvious melody though.
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Re: Automatic music : is it possible ?

Postby music-engine » Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:57 am

The music in question is a transposition of a very particular jazz standard where the theme is in fact very articulated. But even the solo is not very human, and maybe impossible to really play.

There have been other music where I have tried to develop a melodic theme. For example this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADOtXKnFDck
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Re: Automatic music : is it possible ?

Postby Ben Asaro » Mon Jul 27, 2020 1:12 pm

I am thoroughly enjoying seeing where this leads.
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