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Midi over wifi.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 7:33 pm
by Sam Spoons
I'm back to investigating the Berry X-Touch Compact as a cost effective mixing surface for my X32 Rack and XR12 mixers. The tech appears to have matured sufficiently that the X-TouchC will control the mixers adequately over midi but I would like to be wire free if possible. Is there an reasonable priced wireless midi system that works peer to peer without the need for a computer?

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 10:00 am
by BJG145
There don't seem to be many about. I use a CME WIDI. There's also the Panda midiBeam.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 10:34 am
by Wonks
I'd imagine you'd need full duplex MIDI, so the Panda looks to be out of the running for that application. And the WIDI-X8 is discontinued.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 10:43 am
by Wonks
The Kenton wireless MIDI system is input only on the transmitter.

This seems to be the only bi-directional MIDI transmitter I can find, but it's not cheap. https://www.midijet.com/index.php/index ... ory&path=7

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 11:12 am
by BJG145
Wonks wrote:I'd imagine you'd need full duplex MIDI, so the Panda looks to be out of the running for that application.

I wondered about that...could you do something with two of them...?

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 11:37 am
by Wonks
You'd have to have a transmitter and receiver pair at either end. It's going to get rather expensive and cumbersome.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 11:40 am
by Folderol
Possible interference and latency could get 'interesting' too!

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 12:01 pm
by Sam Spoons
Yes, looking like a non starter this one. Plan B is to dig out an old Android tablet and use the XTC to control Mixing Station on that. Sadly the iPad app doesn't accept midi control (yet....) and we all know the difficulties of using third party devices with anything from the fruit :headbang:

Basically I'm trying to avoid the easy fix and just use a laptop and the XTC.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 12:42 pm
by Wonks
Sam Spoons wrote:Basically I'm trying to avoid the easy fix and just use a laptop and the XTC.

It's a shame your forum name isn't Nigel.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 12:45 pm
by Sam Spoons
You may be right, but I'm totally failing to make plans.....

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 12:55 pm
by Wonks
But I'm sure your senses are working overtime.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 3:34 pm
by Martin Walker
At least he's not turning Japanese :beamup:

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 4:47 pm
by Wonks
Martin Walker wrote:At least he's not turning Japanese :beamup:

:?: ? Are you suffering from the vapours?

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 6:20 pm
by Sam Spoons
No I'm ok, just had a message in a bottle, turns out it was a summons :blush:

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 10:24 pm
by BJG145
Dear God, can we get this thread back on topic? I'd like that.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2018 10:32 am
by Sam Spoons
Guilty as charged :tongue: But TBF the topic had run it's course.....

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 6:04 pm
by where_theres_a_will_theres_a_way
This might be a late in the day question to ask but what sort of wireless range are you looking for?

The reason I ask is that Bluetooth modules are inexpensive and can do exactly what you are after. The range is dependent on which type of Bluetooth is used (more range usually costs more).

There is a small amount of latency with Bluetooth (as there is with whiffy) which may be a concern?

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:25 pm
by BJG145
BJG145 wrote:Dear God, can we get this thread back on topic? I'd like that.

(BTW this was nothing more than a desperate attempt to quote some more XTC titles.)

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:48 pm
by Sam Spoons
You slipped that one past us BJG :D

I would probably need more range than BT can manage and, latency is already a minor issue (actually it's more the apps being a bit sluggish rather than wifi latency which is pretty good compared to BT)

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:50 pm
by Wonks
I think you've hit the snail on the head there, Sam.