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Interface to match Shure SM7B

PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 5:19 pm
by Aidenator
Hey guys,

I have a Shure SM7B with a CL-1 preamp and am currently using a Line 6 UX2 interface, which is very outdated, fairly cheap and just doesn't deliver a rich enough sound to justify matching it to the expensive SM7B.

I'm thinking about getting the Scarlett 2i2 but it's fairly cheap and I'm worried about it also not being up to scratch.

My only preference, aside from it sounding amazing, is that it's USB powered - but I understand that most good ones won't be USB powered, which is okay.

One that has been recommended to me a lot is the Behringer X1622USB Xenyx, but I'm worried that it is overkill as the most I'll ever need is 1 XLR input, plus it's not USB powered.

Thank you kindly!

Re: Interface to match Shure SM7B

PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 5:36 pm
by Sam Spoons
I'd expect the Focusrite to be better than the Behringer all other things being equal.

Re: Interface to match Shure SM7B

PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 5:48 pm
by ef37a
Yes, that Behringer IS overkill but it is also a mixer! Not, I don't think what you need?

However I am not at all sure what you need? I am assuming another Audio Interface.
The fact that you have the CL 1 means you can cast your net wide as the vast majority of budget interfaces do not have the gain or/and low noise performance needed to do justice to the low sensitivity 7b. The CL means any of the £100-£200 interfaces will serve you well.

Do NOT however I implore you go for the cheap, single mic input interfaces. They are often as basic as they can be and often lack decent connectors. There are some top end "one lunged" AIs but they are rather pricey. All of the interfaces in the above price range have excellent converters and the sound quality will be determined almost totally by the microphone and a tiny bit by the Cloudlifter. After that a £1000 AI would make almost no difference at all.
Tell us what your intended use is and any ideas for the future.

Dave.

Re: Interface to match Shure SM7B

PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 5:50 pm
by Humble Bee
Audient iD4... :thumbup:

Re: Interface to match Shure SM7B

PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 5:58 pm
by ef37a
Humble Bee wrote:Audient iD4... :thumbup:

Yes indeed but OP might think "ott" for his intended purposes but of course we know not what they are!

Dave.

Re: Interface to match Shure SM7B

PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 5:58 pm
by Aidenator
ef37a wrote:Yes, that Behringer IS overkill but it is also a mixer! Not, I don't think what you need?

However I am not at all sure what you need? I am assuming another Audio Interface.
The fact that you have the CL 1 means you can cast your net wide as the vast majority of budget interfaces do not have the gain or/and low noise performance needed to do justice to the low sensitivity 7b. The CL means any of the £100-£200 interfaces will serve you well.

Do NOT however I implore you go for the cheap, single mic input interfaces. They are often as basic as they can be and often lack decent connectors. There are some top end "one lunged" AIs but they are rather pricey. All of the interfaces in the above price range have excellent converters and the sound quality will be determined almost totally by the microphone and a tiny bit by the Cloudlifter. After that a £1000 AI would make almost no difference at all.
Tell us what your intended use is and any ideas for the future.

Dave.

Thank you for the in-depth response!

I'm looking to replace the UX2 with an interface that can do:
- Noise gate
- Bass/Treble boosting/reduction
- Compression
With the lowest amount of noise generated as possible.

It will be used for commentaries, voice overs and voice acting - most of which will be broadcasted live. I'm looking for the most "professional" sound possible - the ideal sound would be similar to Twitch streamer "Morf_UK".

Re: Interface to match Shure SM7B

PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 6:03 pm
by ef37a
Hmm, I shall defer to the Top Men here with years experience in broadcasting but I suspect much of what you want is not possible live? Once in the can, slice of Black Forest but live?

And, even if it is, won't be cheap.

Dave.

Re: Interface to match Shure SM7B

PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 7:14 pm
by Aidenator
ef37a wrote:Hmm, I shall defer to the Top Men here with years experience in broadcasting but I suspect much of what you want is not possible live? Once in the can, slice of Black Forest but live?

And, even if it is, won't be cheap.

Dave.
All of the previous interfaces I've mentioned are capable of it, I'm just unsure as to which will deliver the best sound quality

Re: Interface to match Shure SM7B

PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 7:24 pm
by Sam Spoons
You'll be hard pressed to hear a difference between the preamps. Give this article a read https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/pick-preamp

Re: Interface to match Shure SM7B

PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 7:44 pm
by Aidenator
Sam Spoons wrote:You'll be hard pressed to hear a difference between the preamps. Give this article a read https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/pick-preamp

I'm simply in need of an interface that can adjust bass/treble in realtime, like the previously mentioned Xenyx, just preferably one that's USB powered

Re: Interface to match Shure SM7B

PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 8:08 pm
by ef37a
Aidenator wrote:
Sam Spoons wrote:You'll be hard pressed to hear a difference between the preamps. Give this article a read https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/pick-preamp

I'm simply in need of an interface that can adjust bass/treble in realtime, like the previously mentioned Xenyx, just preferably one that's USB powered

I really don't know of an INTERFACE that can do T&B in real time and so you would have to go to a mixer but aim a bit higher than the Berry and with fewer inputs.

You want a late generation USB mixer from Soundcraft or Allen & Heath. Their latest 2 mic input mixer are also 24 bit USB interfaces. Not POWERED by USB but connect that way to a PC. Are you perhaps in a mains free situation? If so you are a bit stuffed!

The sound quality issue is IMHO a red herring. You have one of the best "talk mics" in the business but, WTGR, you are looking for interfaces in the lower end of the market. To get any possible improvement on the Steinbergs and Focusrites of this world you would have to pay five to ten times the price and, as you have been told, you would be unlikely to tell.

This is not because the high end stuff is rooking you (though some of the audiophool gear certainly is!) No, it is because the £150ish area for a simple AI is so, so good!

The room you talk in and the monitors and cans you listen through would have to be of THE best quality to show up a 2i2 or similar against £1000 AI.

Dave.

Re: Interface to match Shure SM7B

PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 8:29 pm
by Sam Spoons
That Berry mixer you mention is not USB powered, and for less money you can but the Scarlett or the Audient, both of which will almost certainly sound better.

Aidenator wrote:All of the previous interfaces I've mentioned are capable of it, I'm just unsure as to which will deliver the best sound quality

As has been said, once over £100 quality is much the same across all the reputable makes until you get to exotic £1k=+ kit. Choose the one that gives you the most useful facilities.

What software are you using to broadcast? And is this internet streaming or on air broadcasting? The DAW/Podcast/WHY software will almost certainly allow you real time control of eq.

Re: Interface to match Shure SM7B

PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 8:42 pm
by Mike Stranks
I'd be looking more at a mixer-type approach rather than an interface, but until I know a bit more about the processing chain from mic to ears and the application I'll reserve judgment on that.

But first thoughts are that the Rodecaster Pro is probably worth investigating...

https://www.rode.com/rodecasterpro

Re: Interface to match Shure SM7B

PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 8:49 pm
by Bob Bickerton
The problem is that most audio interfaces are designed so that you process the signal in the box rather than live. One exception, and there may be others I’m unaware of, is the UAD range of interfaces where their associated ‘Console’ software allows you to pop up to four plug-ins on a channel on the way in - in other words live.

The Arrow entry level interface is also buss-powered BUT off Thunderbolt 3 (and not back compatible).

Otherwise you’re talking a mixer which won’t be buss-powered, in which case I’d look at one of the small Yamaha desks rather than the Behringer.

Bob

Re: Interface to match Shure SM7B

PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 8:56 pm
by Aidenator
ef37a wrote:
Aidenator wrote:
Sam Spoons wrote:You'll be hard pressed to hear a difference between the preamps. Give this article a read https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/pick-preamp

I'm simply in need of an interface that can adjust bass/treble in realtime, like the previously mentioned Xenyx, just preferably one that's USB powered

I really don't know of an INTERFACE that can do T&B in real time and so you would have to go to a mixer but aim a bit higher than the Berry and with fewer inputs.

You want a late generation USB mixer from Soundcraft or Allen & Heath. Their latest 2 mic input mixer are also 24 bit USB interfaces. Not POWERED by USB but connect that way to a PC. Are you perhaps in a mains free situation? If so you are a bit stuffed!

The sound quality issue is IMHO a red herring. You have one of the best "talk mics" in the business but, WTGR, you are looking for interfaces in the lower end of the market. To get any possible improvement on the Steinbergs and Focusrites of this world you would have to pay five to ten times the price and, as you have been told, you would be unlikely to tell.

This is not because the high end stuff is rooking you (though some of the audiophool gear certainly is!) No, it is because the £150ish area for a simple AI is so, so good!

The room you talk in and the monitors and cans you listen through would have to be of THE best quality to show up a 2i2 or similar against £1000 AI.

Dave.
Thanks for the in depth response again!

I only say interface because I used to call them mixers and someone told me off for it saying that the ones with bass/treble options are "interfaces" and not mixers - any form of device that allows me to adjust my sound would do!