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Postby Stratman57 » Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:47 pm

What do you people think so far?

Watched some stuff live, The Killers, brilliant, especially the Pet Shop Boys and Johnny Marr guesting. Strangely enough Kylie was pretty good.
The Cure however, unless you're a fan, 95% filler, 5% hits that people know, and no Love Cats.

On the iPlayer, Johnny Marr, great. Surprisingly, Liam Gallagher. And best of all, Carrie Underwood, bit of heavy metal country. Janet Jackson, a bit rubbish. Is it me or do the R&B acts seem a lot less up front sound wise compared to other acts?

Still got lot's to catch up on.

Just my initial impressions.

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Re: Glastonbury 2019

Postby Eddy Deegan » Mon Jul 01, 2019 12:08 am

My wife and one of my stepdaughters are avid live music fans and attend getting on for 20 live events (including festivals) a year.

Bizarrely, given that I used to be on stage a lot back in the day, I don't like live events (with a few exceptions, I attend 1 to 3 a year).

My wife was very sad not to see The Cure, but she wasn't up to a whole festival ticket to to so (Glastonbury don't announce the acts well enough in advance for the discerning ticket buyer). I'm not specifically a fan of The Killers but I do like a lot of their material.

With regards to The Cure, they have been around for ages and if someone is inclined to attend on that basis I doubt they'll be disappointed whatever they do because it's more about the experience of seeing them than it is about the material they perform. I get it, I feel the same way about Jean-Michel Jarre.

Mrs. D. has been making unhappy noises about approaching her half century birthday of late, and despite my continuous (and completely genuine) reassarances that it is of no consequence to me because I am a lucky man (cue "he waaaas!") and would marry her again like a shot if met her yesterday, she's not happy about it. She first saw The Cure back in the early 80's and has done on a number of occasions since. "Filler material" would not put her off for one iota.

So, let the goths of ages rock, and more power to their elbow!

"R&B" in the modern sense is anything but either, to the point I've discounted it as a meaningful genre. I'll take real blues anytime. I'm rarely happier than when whacking out 12-bar on a honky-tonk!
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Re: Glastonbury 2019

Postby Eddy Deegan » Mon Jul 01, 2019 1:57 am

I had a scoot around and wasn't really wowed by anything I saw in the videos of Glastonbury thus far (quite the opposite) but I'm sure lots of people loved it and if so good for them! The world continues to change and if I can't keep up with it on all fronts that's my problem, not theirs.

With all the stuff going on in the world which breaks my heart Glastonbury is a breath of fresh air and one's appreciation or otherwise of the performances/music seems irrelevant in that context.

I would far rather have a Glastonbury that I wouldn't choose to attend than no Glastonbury at all. Long may it last ;)
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Re: Glastonbury 2019

Postby Folderol » Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:18 am

The thing I've noticed in recent years is the TV shows less and less of what is going on around the site. Actually being there is a completely different experience. It's 24 hours a day, and none of them are 'empty', with lots of alternative lifestyle things dotted around.
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Re: Glastonbury 2019

Postby Dr Huge Longjohns » Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:56 am

I have to say I found it mostly utter, utter dross. It seems to be turning into a massive Eurovision song contest show where the music comes second to the dancers and costumes . I have long suspected that Glastonbury is a festival for people who don't really like music. The people who buy SuBo or Buble CDs once a year at Xmas. (Certainly the people I know who go fit into this demographic.) It's all tears and back story, just like X Factor. The idea that Kylie is a Legend is utter tripe, for example. Which is why they banged on and on about her cancer. I spent a great deal of the weekend trying to find an act of any worth and, oddly, by the far best thing I saw was Miley Cyrus. The Cure were even duller than Radiohead last year, which is saying something.
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Re: Glastonbury 2019

Postby Arpangel » Mon Jul 01, 2019 10:23 am

Dr Huge Longjohns wrote:I have to say I found it mostly utter, utter dross. It seems to be turning into a massive Eurovision song contest show where the music comes second to the dancers and costumes . I have long suspected that Glastonbury is a festival for people who don't really like music. The people who buy SuBo or Buble CDs once a year at Xmas. (Certainly the people I know who go fit into this demographic.) It's all tears and back story, just like X Factor. The idea that Kylie is a Legend is utter tripe, for example. Which is why they banged on and on about her cancer. I spent a great deal of the weekend trying to find an act of any worth and, oddly, by the far best thing I saw was Miley Cyrus. The Cure were even duller than Radiohead last year, which is saying something.

It's a bunch of people in a field paying loads of money to listen to overrated dross, and flashbacks from the past. It is really bad, it's just a massive "who cares" for me.
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Re: Glastonbury 2019

Postby MarkOne » Mon Jul 01, 2019 10:23 am

Thought the BBC OB mix was terrible!

Lifeless, dry, overly compressed, lacking in energy, very little croud ambience in the mix. Really disappointing.
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Re: Glastonbury 2019

Postby ore_terra » Mon Jul 01, 2019 12:02 pm

I don’t understand these festival whose line up only criteria is the popularity of the bands... I remember one year my girlfriend told me she nearly got tickets for something like Glastonbury, as Metallica was playing.

When I checked the line up, to see Metallica I had first to see Shakira and Alejandro Sanz... that’s just a price I’m not willing to pay :lol: :lol:
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Re: Glastonbury 2019

Postby MarkOne » Mon Jul 01, 2019 12:06 pm

Dr Huge Longjohns wrote:The idea that Kylie is a Legend is utter tripe, for example. Which is why they banged on and on about her cancer.

Woah! Milk of human kindness shining through there!

Don't think anyone 'banged on' about her cancer. It was mentioned for sure, because, let's face it it was a big deal for her. Sure she got a bit tearful talking about it, because I'm sure back in 06 or whenever it was when she had to pull out, I suspect she was probably thinking there would never be another glasto for her (or perhaps anything!)

As a cancer survivor myself I know exactly where she was coming from. And celebrating her being there is surely worth her mentioning?

Kylie is far from being my favourite kind of music. But it's feel-good pop and it went down a storm with the people there. Legend? I dunno... Probably not... How many decades does a carreer have to span and how many millions of records do you have to sell to qualify? Is there a rule?

Just sayin' :?
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Re: Glastonbury 2019

Postby Hugh Robjohns » Mon Jul 01, 2019 12:14 pm

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Re: Glastonbury 2019

Postby Dr Huge Longjohns » Mon Jul 01, 2019 12:22 pm

How many decades does a carreer have to span and how many millions of records do you have to sell to qualify? Is there a rule?

I would suggest you would have to be someone other than a disposable pop artist ex-actor who's put out a handful of cookie-cutter pop hits. When you think of other Glasto legends, you think of Dolly Parton, yes, Barry Gibb etc.

I'm very sorry Kylie had cancer and I'm sure it was horrific for her and her family and friends as it always is but this doesn't make her a legend.
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Re: Glastonbury 2019

Postby Matt Houghton » Mon Jul 01, 2019 12:29 pm

I'm as surprised as anyone that I'm typing this, but... Miley Cyrus. Reinvented as a rock star. Music not all my cup of tea, but I haven't seen that much sheer attitude and swagger from a 'frontman' for years. :clap:
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Re: Glastonbury 2019

Postby Hugh Robjohns » Mon Jul 01, 2019 12:36 pm

Dr Huge Longjohns wrote:I'm very sorry Kylie had cancer and I'm sure it was horrific for her and her family and friends as it always is but this doesn't make her a legend.

I get the point, but what's considered 'legendary' to you won't be the same as what is perceived (or claimed) as to legendary to someone else... especially someone considerably younger and more into Kylie's musical genre and feminine stance.

Given that Kylie has been performing for longer than a good proportion of the Glasto audience (an certainly the TV presenters involved) have been alive, combined with the relentless (and arguably baseless) hype that surrounds so much these days, I don't think it's surprising that they've applied that label to Kylie.

Doesn't make it valid in the grand scheme of things, of course, but what does genuinely define someone as a legend? :D

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Re: Glastonbury 2019

Postby CS70 » Mon Jul 01, 2019 12:44 pm

Hugh Robjohns wrote:Doesn't make it valid in the grand scheme of things, of course, but what does genuinely define someone as a legend? :D

Keep on doing the same thing long enough and publicly enough, and voila'. Legend is about someone being there when your parents where your age :)
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Re: Glastonbury 2019

Postby Crate » Mon Jul 01, 2019 12:51 pm

Yeah, Miley Cyrus massively surprised me, she was great. Kylie was good fun, she doesn't take herself to seriously and it is what it is, really well done. I don't know much of the Cure's music but really enjoyed their set! And, even have to say I quite enjoyed bits of Stormzy's set, even though that's about as far from my usual thing as you can get.

Aside from that, skimming on player, there was a lot that I just couldn't get into but it all seemed to be going down pretty well, so there must be a reason why it appeals! I wish they'd televised Eric Bibb's set, though not one of the huge mainstream acts! I guess I'll just have to buy a ticket one year!!
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Re: Glastonbury 2019

Postby Folderol » Mon Jul 01, 2019 1:06 pm

I wonder how many people here have actually been to Glastonbury?
Admittedly, the last time I went was in 2000, but from what I've been told by people who've been there more recently, yes, it is getting progressively more commercialised, but still is one of a kind, with a lot going on.

The BBC are only showing a tiny fraction of what it's all about. The coverage (although less) was so much better in quality when John Peel was the anchor man. The rot started when Jo Wiley got involved - The look John gave her when she started banging on about the 'ugly' naturists one year was priceless!
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Re: Glastonbury 2019

Postby Matt Houghton » Mon Jul 01, 2019 1:20 pm

Folderol wrote:I wonder how many people here have actually been to Glastonbury?
Admittedly, the last time I went was in 2000, but from what I've been told by people who've been there more recently, yes, it is getting progressively more commercialised, but still is one of a kind, with a lot going on.

The BBC are only showing a tiny fraction of what it's all about. The coverage (although less) was so much better in quality when John Peel was the anchor man. The rot started when Jo Wiley got involved - The look John gave her when she started banging on about the 'ugly' naturists one year was priceless!

Last time I went was 2008. That was about the time that tickets started selling out within half an hour of going on sale... and it became nigh impossible to plan a bunch of you going. That's bound to have changed the atmosphere (probably more even than when they stuck up the second fence and you could no longer buy sun-warmed Carling and other sundries off dodgy characters; at least you could then be almost sure of returning to a tent that hadn't been slashed by thieves though :headbang: )
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Re: Glastonbury 2019

Postby Rich Hanson » Mon Jul 01, 2019 1:22 pm

I've never thought it was worth commenting on such things, there are as many opinions as there are people. In contrast to whoever said The Cure were dull, I disagree, as a fan I thought they played a blinder. If you don't like them then your perspective won't be the same.

As for Kylie, not my cup of tea, but she's had a career spanning a good three decades now, so good luck to her being considered a legend in some quarters. It's not interesting to me.

With so much stuff around (thinking more broadly than just Glastonbury) it always mystifies me somewhat that people spend a lot of energy slagging off what they don't like rather than spending time enjoying what they do like.

That said, I f*cking can't stand Liam Gallagher. :bouncy:
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Re: Glastonbury 2019

Postby envamt » Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:17 pm

CS70 wrote:
Hugh Robjohns wrote:Doesn't make it valid in the grand scheme of things, of course, but what does genuinely define someone as a legend? :D

Keep on doing the same thing long enough and publicly enough, and voila'. Legend is about someone being there when your parents where your age :)

King Arthur is a Legend as in The Legend of King Arthur, who would disagree with that?
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Re: Glastonbury 2019

Postby blinddrew » Mon Jul 01, 2019 3:29 pm

Is John Legend automatically a legend?
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