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X/M32 V4 firmware update released, and Wing news(ish)

PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 8:21 pm
by DGL.
The new X/M32 V4 firmware is out now! and it what a lot of X/M32 users have been waiting for.

From what I remember,

The big was is that for routing it adds 4 user banks for inputs and 6 for outputs which can take 8 sources from anywhere (i.e. 1 block could have 4 from AES50, 2 from the local inputs and 2 from the card), so no blocks of 8 routing limitations! (although the "blocks of 8" still exist for both compatibility reasons and to speed up setup when the routing limitation is not an issue).

Support has also been added for the DP48.

Graphics have also been changed to make them look more modern and there is a colour option for the RTA.

Lastly M32's with the V2 fader board have had the fader movements slowed down, this is to both help with fader life and to make the faders quieter for theatre applications.

For more info here is the video from Behringer,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwDWC53lsbU


As for the wing, it seems the latest announcement about it/release was sue to be on the 22nd, but Behringer can't make it so they've changed it to the 17th!, so hopefully all will be revealed Sunday.

Wing news

PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 12:27 pm
by DGL.
Wing announcement will be made at 18:00 GERMAN TIME (so GMT +1, that's 17:00 GMT) on the music tribe community. Believe you may need to sign up to view, but the old MG/Behringer forums login will still work.

Re: X/M32 V4 firmware update released, and Wing news(ish)

PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 4:21 pm
by The Elf
Any idea where you need to go to catch the announcement? It says to go to community.musictribe.com, but that just takes you to the home page. I can't find a thing.

Re: X/M32 V4 firmware update released, and Wing news(ish)

PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 4:53 pm
by DGL.
The Elf wrote:Any idea where you need to go to catch the announcement? It says to go to community.musictribe.com, but that just takes you to the home page. I can't find a thing.

Not a clue, just saw the announcement on the Behringer FB that said to go to community.musictribe.com

Re: X/M32 V4 firmware update released, and Wing news(ish)

PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 6:16 pm
by The Elf
Zilch. Oh well, I showed willing.

So I went to my contacts...

A touch surface for the X32? Presumably the rack version? Is this correct?

If so, then it might be useful to some, maybe even me at some point, but hardly earth-shattering IMHO. :boring:

The Behringer WING console

PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 6:16 pm
by DGL.
New console, see the attached video for all the specs, no pricing yet but looks AMAZING. Has proper PRO series pre-amps and possibly outputs on board (8x8 iirc.), new premium effects rack, plus a standard effects rack and what looks like different choices/options for channel processing (i.e. different compressor emulations).
64X64 Dual SD recorder, capacitive touch screen that can be angled to suit. Stageconnect, 3xAES50 64x64? card slot for waves/dante etc. and more.

https://community.musictribe.com/t5/New ... d-p/279767

Re: X/M32 V4 firmware update released, and Wing news(ish)

PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 6:19 pm
by AlecSp
Indeed, interesting that they've ditched most of the onboard pres, but that makes sense.

It'll all end up about "when" and "how much"?

Re: X/M32 V4 firmware update released, and Wing news(ish)

PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 6:24 pm
by DGL.
AlecSp wrote:Indeed, interesting that they've ditched most of the onboard pres, but that makes sense.

It'll all end up about "when" and "how much"?

Yes the when? and how much! But this is Behringer, the how much will be getting other manufacturers worried I would assume. But whilst this won't be sold for pocket money prices it will probably be a good amount cheaper than both the competition and what people might think it will cost.

Re: X/M32 V4 firmware update released, and Wing news(ish)

PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 6:33 pm
by The Elf
The Elf wrote:Zilch. Oh well, I showed willing.

So I went to my contacts...

A touch surface for the X32?
Tch! Can't trust some people!

Looking like a whole new desk then?

Looks nice! I saw SoundGrid mentioned, did anyone see any mention of Dante? Nice to see combi jacks on the back - a couple of stageboxes/personal monitor mixer connections and this could be a tidy live system.

Ah, yes, Dante included. It's all about the price now...

Re: X/M32 V4 firmware update released, and Wing news(ish)

PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:11 pm
by blinddrew
Turns out i was bang on the nail.
Stopped watch and all that. ;)

Re: X/M32 V4 firmware update released, and Wing news(ish)

PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 5:59 am
by resistorman
Might be a bad time to sell an X32 and a good time to buy one!

Re: X/M32 V4 firmware update released, and Wing news(ish)

PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 7:58 am
by DGL.
According to FB shipping (from their Chinese factory) starts in December,

Behringer FB wrote:We proudly present WING - our full stereo 144 I/O digital mixing console.
A big hug to all our amazing customers for supporting us in the past 30 years and congratulations to our German Innovation team for delivering this wonderful console and all other teams who have contributed. I couldn't be more proud of all of you.
Best of all, we'll start shipping from our factory coming December.
Uli

Re: X/M32 V4 firmware update released, and Wing news(ish)

PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:17 pm
by The Elf
I was talking to one of the other band members last night about this. This is a personal view, based on our specific needs...

Looks like we get 16 line inputs onboard - THANK YOU, Behringer, for making those analogue inputs combi sockets! In some situations this would be all we'd need.

It's looking like we have one expansion card slot, so is it going to be either SD card recording or Dante connectivity? Damn, that would be a shame. Or maybe those AES50 ports could be configured to handle Dante? I really hope so. I see more flexibility in Dante than AES50.

And Behringer's AES50 S16/32 stageboxes don't have jack inputs. :madas: Though the SD16 does! :thumbup: :?:

The touch screen? Not interested in the slightest. Sure, put a display on there, but I hope, probably in vain, that I don't HAVE to use the damned thing. :roll:

Re: X/M32 V4 firmware update released, and Wing news(ish)

PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 1:28 pm
by Humble Bee
It says in the video “Dual SD card live recorder 64 channels. So that might already be in there freeing the slot up for Dante or other stuff...

Looks like a very interesting desk!

Now how much? :o

Re: X/M32 V4 firmware update released, and Wing news(ish)

PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 2:27 pm
by Sam Spoons
No, sadly not (and a big omission IMO) the SD recorder uses the, single, expansion slot.

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Re: X/M32 V4 firmware update released, and Wing news(ish)

PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 2:29 pm
by Humble Bee
Yeah that’s dumb... :(

Re: X/M32 V4 firmware update released, and Wing news(ish)

PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 2:58 pm
by The Elf
There you go. I find this very disappointing and I genuinely hope I'm wrong.

Re: X/M32 V4 firmware update released, and Wing news(ish)

PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 4:26 pm
by resistorman
The SD card recorder is disappointing anyhow, you have to use stupidly small cards.

Re: X/M32 V4 firmware update released, and Wing news(ish)

PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 9:16 pm
by DGL.
Firstly DANTE is supposedly an internal expansion that uses the control/audio network ethernet jacks.

Lastly, inc. 20% VAT, 2,999€

https://www.thomann.de/gb/behringer_wing.htm

Another feature is that stereo channels now only take up 1 fader, so you could have the 20 main faders being 20 stereo channels, whereas on the X32 it would be 2 faders for a stereo channel.

Re: X/M32 V4 firmware update released, and Wing news(ish)

PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:03 pm
by The Elf
DGL. wrote:Firstly DANTE is supposedly an internal expansion that uses the control/audio network ethernet jacks.
Internal? How so? Everything I see points at Dante being an expansion slot option - which precludes using the SD card expansion board.

But if it re-uses those Ethernet (AES50, I assume) connection ports (perfectly sensible to my way of thinking), then... Yes!!! I was told elsewhere that this wouldn't be possible...

And I like that price! :thumbup: