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Please, recommend me a speaker for busking

PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2020 4:08 pm
by prako2
Hello, can anyone suggest me a speaker for busking using backing tracks on which it's comfortable to sit with accordion?

Re: Please, recommend me a speaker for busking

PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2020 5:21 pm
by Mike Stranks
Welcome!

How are you intending to power this speaker?

I have a portable system which contains lead-acid batteries:

https://www.inta-audio.com/dj-equipment-c125/karaoke-c134/qtx-ppa72-portable-dvd-mp3-karaoke-system-p621

... and can also work on mains power. Belts out the sound, but is very heavy...

I bought mine for £20 in an auction (dead batteries), but current retail on a similar model is about £250-£350

Re: Please, recommend me a speaker for busking

PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2020 6:40 pm
by prako2
Thank you, these wheels look very fragile. And cost is very big. I want it with battery. Don't really want to spens more than 150€. 20£ is good deal, did you replace batteries?

Re: Please, recommend me a speaker for busking

PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2020 8:13 pm
by Mike Stranks
prako2 wrote:Thank you, these wheels look very fragile. And cost is very big. I want it with battery. Don't really want to spens more than 150€. 20£ is good deal, did you replace batteries?

Yup! I replaced batteries... Got them from EBay and I know enough about electricals to swap 'em in and secure 'em.

The wheels are vital... I'm used to carrying heavy gear, but this beast is REALLY heavy. The only alternative would be a small trolley...

There are much smaller dual battery/mains amps about, but sitting on them would be inadvisable - and you'd look pretty silly sitting 25 cms off the ground! :)

For a list check out https://www.thomann.de/gb/loudspeakers_with_battery.html?oa=pra

Re: Please, recommend me a speaker for busking

PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2020 9:10 pm
by prako2
They almost all doesn't have a flat top. Ridiculous

Re: Please, recommend me a speaker for busking

PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2020 10:40 pm
by Mike Stranks
prako2 wrote:They almost all doesn't have a flat top. Ridiculous

Well you could always buy a fold-up stool that comes with its own shoulder-case... we have a couple for picnics... :)

Re: Please, recommend me a speaker for busking

PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2020 11:07 pm
by blinddrew
I bought one of these: https://www.gear4music.com/PA-DJ-and-Li ... tooth/1160 and a simple line mixer for busking, but sadly i see the price has shot up recently. It was £159 when i bought mine a couple of years ago. I'm sure Thomann will have something similar though.

Re: Please, recommend me a speaker for busking

PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2020 11:16 pm
by Sam Spoons
Imo your budget is too small to get you anything decent without DIY'ing. Is your accordion an acoustic or electronic one? If the former a €150 battery powered speaker is unlikely to do anything useful. The most economic way would be to buy an inverter and an old car battery to drive a half decent budget PA speaker but it will be a heavy rig*.

Without the budget constraints I'd endorse the Bose S1 Pro (but with reservations, google "Bose S1 Pro battery drain issue"). But it currently costs €550, and it's too low to sit on (though Mikes idea of a folding stool has considerable merit).

* FWIW I have a little Epiphone Valve Junior 5 watt guitar combo modified to run off a sealed lead acid battery with an inverter and battery built into the cabinet, it runs for about two and a half hours and is light enough to carry easily. If you have the DIY skills something like that might work for you. Happy to post details on here if you're interested.

Edit, If blinddrew has had success with his QTX speaker I would consider it well worth a try, he knows more than his sig suggests...... :)

Re: Please, recommend me a speaker for busking

PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2020 12:42 am
by prako2
Sam Spoons wrote:Imo your budget is too small to get you anything decent without DIY'ing. Is your accordion an acoustic or electronic one? If the former a €150 battery powered speaker is unlikely to do anything useful. The most economic way would be to buy an inverter and an old car battery to drive a half decent budget PA speaker but it will be a heavy rig*.

Without the budget constraints I'd endorse the Bose S1 Pro (but with reservations, google "Bose S1 Pro battery drain issue"). But it currently costs €550, and it's too low to sit on (though Mikes idea of a folding stool has considerable merit).

* FWIW I have a little Epiphone Valve Junior 5 watt guitar combo modified to run off a sealed lead acid battery with an inverter and battery built into the cabinet, it runs for about two and a half hours and is light enough to carry easily. If you have the DIY skills something like that might work for you. Happy to post details on here if you're interested.

Edit, If blinddrew has had success with his QTX speaker I would consider it well worth a try, he knows more than his sig suggests...... :)
I have Mackie Thumb 15A but it's very very heavy. Probably I need to exchange it to something smaller :(. And I also saw this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBeN4UK4K6I

Re: Please, recommend me a speaker for busking

PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2020 12:59 am
by prako2
But I'm interested anyways. In the video I see the comment that it can be done faster: What is less cumbersome and faster set up would be a car battery .
One 400w inverter
And a powered pa speaker with built in mixer .

My speaker has inbuilt mixer. I'd appreciate if you can help me. I have an acoustic accordion BTW.

Do I need 600W true sin inverter if my speaker HF is 300W and peak is 1300W? If yes, such inverter costs a lot https://www.omedita.lt/953-dcac-itampos ... ngu-sinusu or there is any other workaround? Or do you have some tips?

Re: Please, recommend me a speaker for busking

PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2020 2:19 am
by prako2
Sorry for posting multiple times, I don't see "Edit" button now. I think this is very good for me. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3276932 ... web201603_

Re: Please, recommend me a speaker for busking

PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2020 3:50 am
by prako2
Does amperage matters? I found this one https://m.skelbiu.lt/skelbimai/nauji-ir ... 80519.html and in the picture it says that it's 750 A. What does it mean? And maybe I'm enough to have 600W countinuous inverter if I'm not going to play a music with distortion and damage my speaker. But I still don't understand one thing, in Thomann description it's written that HF is 300W and LF is 1000W and the rating is 1300W and it's written on the speaker. As I understand, 300W is equivalent to 300W RMS and what is higher than that, damages the speaker (when I turn up the too much volume on the speaker and hear a distortion).

Re: Please, recommend me a speaker for busking

PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2020 7:44 am
by Arpangel
I’ve got a Roland Street Cube, great piece of gear. Should be fine for what you want.

Re: Please, recommend me a speaker for busking

PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2020 9:33 am
by FrankF
Ah yes, I remember Paul White reviewing the Cube Street rather favourably:

https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/ro ... -street-ex

Re: Please, recommend me a speaker for busking

PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2020 10:28 am
by blinddrew
The street cubes are good little bits of kit (outside the OP's budget mind) but lousy to sit on!