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Re: 'Masks' for wind instruments?

Postby Hugh Robjohns » Fri Jul 31, 2020 12:41 pm

You could if you mastered circular sucking...

Perhaps we should as His Orangeness for a masterclass?
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Re: 'Masks' for wind instruments?

Postby blinddrew » Fri Jul 31, 2020 12:59 pm

Suck in through a tuba, blow out with an oboe up each nostril?
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Re: 'Masks' for wind instruments?

Postby ore_terra » Fri Jul 31, 2020 2:32 pm

I would say that blowing “through” an instrument will have an equivalent effect to blowing through a face mask: air is forced into a labyrinth where the particles will get trapped to an extent, depending on the complexity of the labyrinth.

A trumpet or a french horn seem a quite complex labyrinth to me. Dont know how they would compare to a face mask.
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Re: 'Masks' for wind instruments?

Postby Malcolm Smith » Tue Aug 11, 2020 7:18 pm

Meanwhile, in the lab...
https://www.bbe.org.uk/news/04082020-16 ... ch-results

observably fewer particles were produced when playing than when breathing alone

bell end

BINGO! Finally, after this many pages in the thread, it takes an actual scientist to issue the phrase we were all waiting for! :thumbup:

playing an instrument released fewer particles than breathing or singing, but finally showed a stark reduction in aerosol release when players also used a bell cover.

Nooooo! Don't let them sing!!! The whole point of having the mouthpiece in their mouth is to discourage that at all costs! ;)
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Re: 'Masks' for wind instruments?

Postby DC-Choppah » Tue Aug 11, 2020 10:17 pm

Wow the 'mask' over the bell really made a huge difference.

Thank you very much for this data.

Using bell covers is also very practical.
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Re: 'Masks' for wind instruments?

Postby Aural Reject » Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:00 am

Malcolm Smith wrote:Meanwhile, in the lab...
https://www.bbe.org.uk/news/04082020-16 ... ch-results

observably fewer particles were produced when playing than when breathing alone

bell end

BINGO! Finally, after this many pages in the thread, it takes an actual scientist to issue the phrase we were all waiting for! :thumbup:

playing an instrument released fewer particles than breathing or singing, but finally showed a stark reduction in aerosol release when players also used a bell cover.

Nooooo! Don't let them sing!!! The whole point of having the mouthpiece in their mouth is to discourage that at all costs! ;)

As much as I hate to say it....given that brass bands are my recording bread and butter...Alex's paper that you cited has a few shortcomings (that have been rather exposed on social media) and it's still not a peer reviewed publication....though it's been submitted.
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Re: 'Masks' for wind instruments?

Postby Sam Spoons » Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:55 pm

Interesting that singing (likely untrained voices) produced less aerosols than breathing. Maybe they should have measured singing and breathing with a face covering/mask too to make a more useful comparison.
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Re: 'Masks' for wind instruments?

Postby shufflebeat » Fri Aug 14, 2020 11:24 pm

Sam Spoons wrote:Maybe they should have measured singing and breathing with a face covering/mask too to make a more useful comparison.

Or in some cases a binbag.
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Re: 'Masks' for wind instruments?

Postby Sam Spoons » Sat Aug 15, 2020 6:28 pm

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