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Is This Legal?

Postby Folderol » Mon Nov 25, 2019 4:17 pm

I see we have that annoying slidey down banner again, that prevents you logging in (or even viewing pages) unless you accept the terms :protest:

I thought that was supposed to have been kicked into the long grass ages ago :roll:
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Re: Is This Legal?

Postby Eddy Deegan » Mon Nov 25, 2019 4:45 pm

Do you mean the "We use cookies on this site to enhance your user experience" banner in blue?

If so, then I have a feeling it's probably a legal requirement that it is there. It should disappear once you've accepted though. I've not seen it for forever-and-a-day and had to access the forum in incognito mode to see it. Did you clean your cache or delete some cookies* lately?

* I love deleting cookies. Especially Hob-Nobs.
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Re: Is This Legal?

Postby DGL. » Mon Nov 25, 2019 4:54 pm

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* I love deleting cookies. Especially Hob-Nobs.

Hob-Nobs are NOT cookies you swine. They are a far superior BISCUIT, we are British you know! :mrgreen:

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Re: Is This Legal?

Postby Eddy Deegan » Mon Nov 25, 2019 5:03 pm

DGL. wrote:
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* I love deleting cookies. Especially Hob-Nobs.

Hob-Nobs are NOT cookies you swine. They are a far superior BISCUIT, we are British you know! :mrgreen:

Ahem. Quite. A good point well made. As you were!
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Re: Is This Legal?

Postby Hugh Robjohns » Mon Nov 25, 2019 6:45 pm

Folderol wrote:I see we have that annoying slidey down banner again, that prevents you logging in (or even viewing pages) unless you accept the terms :protest:

I thought that was supposed to have been kicked into the long grass ages ago :roll:

Nope, it is a legal requirement to inform you and get your positive consent to the use of some cookies. It generally only appears if you have cleared out your cookies from your browser (or are using a new browser to access the site for the first time), or if something critical has been changed in the website.

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Re: Is This Legal?

Postby Martin Walker » Tue Nov 26, 2019 7:22 pm

Hugh Robjohns wrote:It generally only appears if you have cleared out your cookies from your browser (or are using a new browser to access the site for the first time), or if something critical has been changed in the website.

Yep, it appeared for me today - I'm trying out the Brave browser, and am currently most impressed with its combination of Chrome speed (it's based on the same code) but more privacy.


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Re: Is This Legal?

Postby Eddy Deegan » Tue Nov 26, 2019 7:35 pm

Martin Walker wrote:I'm trying out the Brave browser, and am currently most impressed with its combination of Chrome speed (it's based on the same code) but more privacy.

Although I use a paid service from Google to get gmail for my personal domain, I moved away from Chrome and the Google search engine for privacy reasons. I was using Brave for a while but it seemed to have problems with my graphics card and would freeze regularly while the 'sysem interrupts' metric in the performance monitor went off the scale and maxxed out the CPU for up to 30 seconds at a time so I had to uninstall it.

I ended up using Firefox with privacy plugins, but I don't like it as much and it has the same issue, albeit much less so than Brave did. I think I'll try Brave again and see if that issue is still in evidence, as other than that I really liked it!
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Re: Is This Legal?

Postby Wonks » Tue Nov 26, 2019 8:01 pm

Firefox seems to go through phases of upsetting my graphics card where everything goes blank for a while then reloads, normally when changing to another web page. But I've never really had any speed issues with browsers (except for occasionally waiting for web sites to respond) and on my PC, Chrome (emergency use only if FF won't show a page i really need to see) isn't any faster. But I've always had a relatively fast broadband connection, so any speed optimisation is pretty irrelevant. Currently 212 download, 24 upload.
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Re: Is This Legal?

Postby Martin Walker » Thu Nov 28, 2019 12:57 am

Before I tried out Brave I was using Chrome - I switched to that because of a few long-term issues with specific websites with Firefox, mostly of the 'embedded music/video player wouldn't play or even appear on screen' variety. As soon as I installed Chrome, all those issues immediately disappeared.

However, I've always been suspicious of the (lack of) privacy aspects of the Google empire, so when I stumbled across Brave a week or two back it seemed like a neat sideways move.

So far I'm well impressed with it, and it's noticeably faster for me with graphics-heavy web pages, mainly because it avoids having to load so many unnecessary (to me anyway) screen elements.


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Re: Is This Legal?

Postby Sam Spoons » Sun Jan 05, 2020 10:57 pm

I have Brave and Safari on the MBP and am gradually migrating over to Brave. The fact that I do allow cookies for trusted (and some not so trusted) sites means the many don't work very well. My Safari homepage is set to 'Startpage' which uses Google to search relatively anonymously but a minor niggle is that I can't set it to be my default search engine so searches in the address bar default to one of Safari's 'approved' search engines (in my case 'Duck Duck Go").
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Re: Is This Legal?

Postby zenguitar » Sun Jan 05, 2020 11:51 pm

I believe that there is a Safari extension that lets you set Startpage as your default search engine. However, for reasons beyond my control, my iMac hasn’t been online for a while so I can’t check for you.

But definitely worth exploring further.

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Re: Is This Legal?

Postby ManFromGlass » Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:48 pm

I’ve pretty well given up on thinking secure software protects privacy better than others. I assume a mid-level to pro hacker will have your information if they deem you worthy, no matter what. Or a large corp with full time codewriters will have it too.

Is there any real proof that Brave is better at protecting privacy?
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Re: Is This Legal?

Postby Martin Walker » Tue Jan 07, 2020 10:09 pm

ManFromGlass wrote:Is there any real proof that Brave is better at protecting privacy?

I'm still impressed with its slick performance a couple of months on, and like the greater emphasis that it puts on security. I just re-enabled its 'Stats' readout, to read that since I started using Brave it has thus far blocked 166,918 Ads and Trackers.

Here's a particularly compelling review: https://www.theverge.com/2019/3/4/18249 ... t-chromium

...and here are a couple of more traditional on-line reviews from reputable computing sites that may help you make up your mind:

https://www.cnet.com/news/brave-1-0-bro ... vertisers/

https://www.pcworld.com/article/3453376 ... y-too.html


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Re: Is This Legal?

Postby cyrano.mac » Mon Jan 20, 2020 10:49 pm

ManFromGlass wrote:Is there any real proof that Brave is better at protecting privacy?

They are actually suing Google at this very moment on our behalf. They have the competence and the financial means to do so. At the very least, it shows balls...
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Re: Is This Legal?

Postby ManFromGlass » Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:16 am

I’ve been trying it for almost a week now. The ads on certain websites have totally disappeared. Can’t say I object to that. Not quite ready to get paid for watching ads, whatever that is about and I finally banned the connect to cryptocurrency option from showing up every time when I booted Brave. On the ipad clicking on links always makes the page jump down a line as the page address line reappears.
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Re: Is This Legal?

Postby ConcertinaChap » Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:23 am

ManFromGlass wrote:I’ve pretty well given up on thinking secure software protects privacy better than others. I assume a mid-level to pro hacker will have your information if they deem you worthy, no matter what. Or a large corp with full time codewriters will have it too.

The issue is not just one of privacy. People who build botnets aren't interested in your data, they just want to control your machine for your own purposes. I'd rather not have my computer used used for nefarious activities like DDOS attacks.

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Re: Is This Legal?

Postby Folderol » Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:27 am

ConcertinaChap wrote:
ManFromGlass wrote:I’ve pretty well given up on thinking secure software protects privacy better than others. I assume a mid-level to pro hacker will have your information if they deem you worthy, no matter what. Or a large corp with full time codewriters will have it too.

The issue is not just one of privacy. People who build botnets aren't interested in your data, they just want to control your machine for your own purposes. I'd rather not have my computer used used for nefarious activities like DDOS attacks.

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Apart from other protective measures I have a small program on my computer watching the network activity. I've also got into the habit of switching my router off at random intervals.
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Re: Is This Legal?

Postby Eddy Deegan » Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:33 am

Folderol wrote:I've also got into the habit of switching my router off at random intervals.

Interesting idea, I think I might tr ££*&^NO CARRIER
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Re: Is This Legal?

Postby Folderol » Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:43 am

We need a ROTFL icon! :lol:
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Re: Is This Legal?

Postby N i g e l » Wed Jan 22, 2020 1:41 am

My gateway is on a time switch*, 1/2 for security & 1/2 to give me a hint that its time for bed and the internet will still be there tomorrow night .

*I gave it a bump tonight as tmorrow is an easy day.
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