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Re: There is no double S in BUSES

Postby The Korff » Wed Nov 27, 2019 7:37 pm

N i g e l wrote:I wasnt that bothered but whilst on the subject of mixer corrections..

DEC'19 page 104

"1970s....1996.....Fast forward to the 20th century when .."

Oh shite. I wrote that, I'm afraid. I should probably get off my high horse now... :oops:

I guess im not going to win a mixer now :(

No, but just to be sure, can you PM me your full name and email address so I can remove you from the list of entrants?

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Re: There is no double S in BUSES

Postby Hugh Robjohns » Wed Nov 27, 2019 8:46 pm

Sorry.... Been busy with some personal flagellation....

Amusingly, confusingly, and/or frustratingly it seems my version of 'the guide' is post the 2007 update and pre the 2013 update... It appears the approved version of bus/buss/buses/busses changes on a roughly seven year cycle... :lol:

Or perhaps dementia has already set in and I've just dreamt (dreamed?) the whole thing. Either way, I'm clearly out of phase -- or is that opposite polarity? -- with my esteemed colleagues.

Corrections to my corrections reinstated. Let the self-flagellation continue...

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Re: There is no double S in BUSES

Postby N i g e l » Wed Nov 27, 2019 11:49 pm

The Korff wrote: ....so I can remove you from the list of entrants...

I havent entered yet. Its only been a week and the questions are hard.
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Re: There is no double S in BUSES

Postby ef37a » Thu Nov 28, 2019 12:06 am

'buss' is a term for a kiss and most commonly used by our friends across the Pond who rarely use adverbs.
You would think therefore they would keep the single s version for its electrical meaning and the double s for the snogging?

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Re: There is no double S in BUSES

Postby Watchmaker » Thu Nov 28, 2019 1:23 am

"Buss" is also a brand of fuse, back in the day when house had fuse boxes, not circuit breakers. I'd post a pic, but I'm lazy and can't be arsed.

I learned house wiring and electrical distribution lingo at a very young age and refuse to refer to my busses as buses. One "s" means I clamber aboard and pay money for as brief a trip as I may endure; two "s"'s refers to a signal path, generally summing.

fwiw, my English Achilles is "pleaded" instead of pled.
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Re: There is no double S in BUSES

Postby Eddy Deegan » Thu Nov 28, 2019 1:49 am

Watchmaker wrote: I'd post a pic, but I'm lazy and can't be arsed.

I guffawed :clap: :thumbup:

In light of this thread I am more confused than ever, but if I'm distilling the gist of it correctly then 'buss/busses' is indeed the correct spelling in the context we're discussing, which is distinct from 'bus/buses' as applied to wheeled transport.

"I think therefore I am as I was" :crazy:

I still maintain there should be only one aitch in 'aitch'
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Re: There is no double S in BUSES

Postby Mixedup » Thu Nov 28, 2019 7:34 am

Eddy Deegan wrote:if I'm distilling the gist of it correctly then 'buss/busses' is indeed the correct spelling in the context we're discussing

I believe it is always 'bus'. But 'buses' and 'busses' are both permissible. Fowler argues for the latter and SOS house style agrees.
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Re: There is no double S in BUSES

Postby Rob Kirkwood » Thu Nov 28, 2019 10:12 am

As bus is derived from the latin omnibus (= for all) I've always thought the plural should be (omni)bi ...but I guess that'd be a whole new confusion?

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Re: There is no double S in BUSES

Postby Wonks » Thu Nov 28, 2019 10:31 am

To avoid any confusion, just start using 'bussses', and damn the torpedoes!
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Re: There is no double S in BUSES

Postby Hugh Robjohns » Thu Nov 28, 2019 10:46 am

Rob Kirkwood wrote:I've always thought the plural should be (omni)bi ...

:lol: :bouncy: :clap: Works for me...
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Re: There is no double S in BUSES

Postby CS70 » Thu Nov 28, 2019 11:57 am

There was a good book some years back, "Don't sweat the small stuff". Great advice.

Now do I pan center or centre? :bouncy:
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Re: There is no double S in BUSES

Postby Mixedup » Thu Nov 28, 2019 12:03 pm

Rob Kirkwood wrote:As bus is derived from the latin omnibus (= for all) I've always thought the plural should be (omni)bi

That bold bit is important, of course. Or perhaps we should trace the word back to its Proto-Indo-European origins? I suspect that would be a step too far even for the SOS House Style Guide! :headbang:

Personally, I reckon the French (from whom we acquired the modern word 'omnibus') are on to something: both the singular and the plural are simply 'omnibus'.
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Re: There is no double S in BUSES

Postby ManFromGlass » Thu Nov 28, 2019 2:04 pm

but wouldn’t the French not pronounce most of those letters? :smirk:
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Re: There is no double S in BUSES

Postby N i g e l » Thu Nov 28, 2019 9:59 pm

There is no logic to plurals. I think this poem is by the venerable Bead who was complaining about the implementation of English 1.0 beta.

We’ll begin with a box, and the plural is boxes;
But the plural of ox should be oxen not oxes.
One fowl is a goose, but two are called geese,
Yet the plural of moose should never be meese.

You may find a lone mouse or a nest full of mice,
But the plural of house is houses, not hice.
If the plural of man is always called men,
Why shouldn’t the plural of pan be called pen?

If I spoke of my foot and showed you my feet,
When I give you a boot, would a pair be called beet?
If one is a tooth and a whole set are teeth,
Why shouldn’t the plural of booth be called beeth?

If the singular is this, and the plural is these,
Why shouldn’t the plural of kiss be kese?
Then one may be that, and three would be those,
Yet the plural of hat would never be hose.

We speak of a brother and also of brethren,
But though we say mother, we never say methren.
So plurals in English, I think you’ll agree,
Are indeed very tricky, singularly.
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Re: There is no double S in BUSES

Postby blinddrew » Thu Nov 28, 2019 10:44 pm

This whole 'language' business is very messy and should be replaced by a nice, logical numerical system.
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Re: There is no double S in BUSES

Postby ConcertinaChap » Thu Nov 28, 2019 11:54 pm

N i g e l wrote:We’ll begin with a box, and the plural is boxes;

Not when they're UNIX boxen ;)

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Re: There is no double S in BUSES

Postby N i g e l » Fri Nov 29, 2019 12:26 am

Ive lived a very sheltered Windows life. It seems everythings more complicated than I thought !
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Re: There is no double S in BUSES

Postby Eddy Deegan » Fri Nov 29, 2019 1:39 am

N i g e l wrote:Ive lived a very sheltered Windows life. It seems everythings more complicated than I thought !

Strange as it may seem, the majority of things in Linux/UNIX systems are simpler than you may think. The main problem for newcomers is the sheer number of simple things to understand, as well as how they fit into the overall context of the system.

For many developers, Linux/UNIX is, in the main, a joy compared to Windows!
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Re: There is no double S in BUSES

Postby Dynamic Mike » Fri Nov 29, 2019 2:04 am

Rob Kirkwood wrote:As bus is derived from the latin omnibus (= for all) I've always thought the plural should be (omni)bi ...but I guess that'd be a whole new confusion?

That's my coat over there -->
The one with the aluminum lining & the plugsocket tester in the pocket.

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Re: There is no double S in BUSES

Postby ore_terra » Fri Nov 29, 2019 9:13 am

Always had that doubt (buss VS bus). Now I know it’s another of those American English VS English English thing :lol:

You’re not alone, people. It gets much crazier in Spanish Spanish VS American Spanish :headbang:
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