I cowrite, produce and mix using VST Connect, so I might just shed some light on the matter. :-)
artzmusic wrote:Also, I'm curious if folks wouldn't prefer to get sent tracks and then work on their own time to get the parts down. I've done that with vocals over Dropbox and that seems to work just fine. Co-writing, on the other hand, seems just the thing for VST Connect.
As long as one of the collaborators work in Cubase, VST Connect is very useful. It's okay to send files back and fourth, but real-time interaction is so much better when both parties have the time. My cowriting buddy is 300 km away, and when we set up a VST Connect session, both with great studio grade microphones and okay looking video, after a while you just forget that you're not in the same room. There will probably always be latency long enough making it impossible to jam in real-time, but it's okay, because it's easy to switch whom is in sync and play along with the music. If I'm in Cubase, then I'm setting up some nice drum patterns and keyboards, and my cowriter is playing his guitar. If I want to be in sync with the music, I just press the [Rehearse]-button and sing along with the music background. And when I want to hear my cowriting buddy playing "live" with the music, I disengage the [Rehearse]-button.
Previously, I had to use Skype for long-distance cowriting and it worked at best, but was such a turn-off.
Now I easily set up a mixing session with the client listening in on what I'm doing via VST Performer and an iPhone App(!!). It's very liberating being able to discuss mixing matters in real-time, even if I and the client are miles apart.
Pazu wrote:There's the Pro ver then the free ver. My working understanding is that the free ver is limited in several aspects among which are audio resolution and mult-track transfer.
Having worked with VST Connect since it was released, VST Connect is not limited at all in terms of creative possibilities. I rather see VST Connect Pro having some really cool features that makes the system even better. If you're just going to use VST Connect for cowriting, mix audition and recording remote vocals - you will be perfectly fine.
If you later decide that you want to be able to do remote multitrack recording, 24 bit audio recordings on the remote computer for later transfer to your Cubase project etc - then the Pro version will enable you to do that.
The standard version will ONLY transfer MP3 encoded audio, but trust me, you will accept receiving a 320kbit/s mono audio stream in close to real-time and record it on the fly like a normal recording. The sound quality is great. Being able to interact with the singer is much more worth than having a 24 bit linear audio file sent via Dropbox or such. And you always have the possibility to upgrade to VST Connect Pro.
Pazu wrote:I don't see that the limited ver is any better than a Skype call would be, but then I've not used it.
If you ever get the chance to try out VST Connect in a real recording situation or songwriting session - then you're in for a nice surprise. :-)
Pazu wrote:I think that latency issues will kill the Steinberg tool's realitme usefulness, that and lock-ups etc.
When you work with real-time remote collaboration, latency can be dealt with and not kill the creativity, but the system has to be integrated into the DAW. Using it as a normal AU/AAX/VST plug-in is not good enough. The plug-in needs to communicate with the DAW on a deeper level than a normal plug-in, bypassing latency in the monitoring section, swapping lossy encoded recordings with 24 bit audio files etc. Steinberg has done it really pretty cool way with VST Connect.
But don't take my words for it, read this article instead:https://www.steinberg.net/en/artists/stories/2014/derek_von_krogh.html
I think he sums it up very well at the end:"But VST Connect offers you a fundamental kind of improvement that goes beyond the studio realm; simply put, I have much more time now for my kids. To get something as abstract as a feature in a DAW to have that kind of effect on ones private life, that's quite an astonishing achievement. I can’t think of anything comparable."
Can it get better than spending more time with the kids? Think not! ;)
Just my two cents