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Re: Studio construction materials

Postby Wurlitzer » Mon Oct 03, 2005 10:02 am

No-one?
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Re: Studio construction materials

Postby phantomfield » Mon Oct 03, 2005 11:04 am

I hope you find somewhere but I think your best bet is just to get TP, Jewsons or whoever to order them in for you. I don;t know the suppliers in London. Good luck.

btw I say this because often the main suppliers aren't geared up for delivering less than very large loads which they'll normally be supplying direct to the likes of TP who have the small trucks to transport it to you. Have you a truck ? Potentially there is some serious wieght to move.

As well it would be much easier if they were able to offload the pallets with a small crane lrather than you have to break open the pallet and personally handball them to where ever they'll be stored until use. These kinds of things are worse considering at this stage, the logistics of it all. Best wishes.
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Re: Studio construction materials

Postby balaftuna » Sun Oct 23, 2005 6:27 pm

did anyone used AcoustiPro products? I had a very good impression, but my knowledge is minimal on the subject.
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Re: Studio construction materials

Postby mattm » Wed Oct 26, 2005 7:45 pm

i will say this straight off(and i hope its ok for me to mention it), i have an interest in this product as i(meaning my company) will be importing it

GreenGlue - www.audioalloy.com it looks very impressive, we will be testing it ourselves when it arrives here, i hope it does what i says on the tin. Supposed to be very good for low frequencies...
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Re: Studio construction materials

Postby Joel DuBay » Wed Nov 09, 2005 8:40 pm

In the States, we have a material called Owen's Corning 703. Many of you may have heard of this or may have seen articles written about it elsewhere on the net. This is mashed rigid insulation that typically comes in 48x24x4 inch panels.

My question is: Is this or something very similar available in the UK and other places outside the USA?

Please, if you have information on this, respond.

Many thanks gents and gals!


~ J
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Re: Studio construction materials

Postby mattm » Fri Nov 11, 2005 7:35 pm

powerjoe wrote:In the States, we have a material called Owen's Corning 703. Many of you may have heard of this or may have seen articles written about it elsewhere on the net. This is mashed rigid insulation that typically comes in 48x24x4 inch panels.

My question is: Is this or something very similar available in the UK and other places outside the USA?

Please, if you have information on this, respond.

Many thanks gents and gals!


~ J
We import 6lb.ft density, which i think might be 705? we do that as the stuff in this country doesnt come in big enough sheets for our purposes, the 25mm we used to use years ago wasnt consistant enough. I dont know what alternatives there are though
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Re: Studio construction materials

Postby Joel DuBay » Fri Nov 11, 2005 11:37 pm

Ah!


Do you know the dimmensions of those sheets of 705?


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Re: Studio construction materials

Postby mattm » Sat Nov 12, 2005 1:14 pm

The stuff we used to buy were small, only 1.5m i think, but i dont know if they are still avialable, i will find out for you, the sheets we import are 2.4 or 3.0m long but i dont know if they are available for sale, again i will find out and get back to you
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Re: Studio construction materials

Postby Paul Woodlock » Mon Dec 05, 2005 10:23 pm

Joel DuBay wrote:In the States, we have a material called Owen's Corning 703. Many of you may have heard of this or may have seen articles written about it elsewhere on the net. This is mashed rigid insulation that typically comes in 48x24x4 inch panels.

My question is: Is this or something very similar available in the UK and other places outside the USA?

Please, if you have information on this, respond.

Many thanks gents and gals!


~ J

Rocksil RS45/Rockwool RWA45 - 45kg/m3 and..

Rocksil RS60/Rockwool RW3 - 60 kg/m3 are...

The rough equivelents or 703 and 705.

OC703/705 is glasswool ( glassfibre ), while rocksil and rockwool are mineral wool.

Either works great. If you specifically fancy glass fibre then a company called Isover sels in EU/UK
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Re: Studio construction materials

Postby Joel DuBay » Tue Dec 06, 2005 6:11 pm

Paul, thank you very much.

This is great information for those who want a DIY solution for their acoustic space.

Many thanks again,
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Re: Studio construction materials

Postby gunslinger757 » Fri Dec 16, 2005 1:25 am

hi, i've just joined this forum after searching the internet for some sound proffing advice. Here's a few tips for anyone wanting to build stud (partition) walls for their studio. (i'm a shopfitter by trade)

materials

As someone has said, use a builders merchant for your materials. Buy your screws by the box (much cheaper). for stud partitions, The minimum size timber you should be using is 75mm x 50 mm (3"x2"). Plaster board comes in various sizes, mostly for ease of handling. i.e to let the DIYers get it in their cars from the DIY sheds. a Standerd size sheet is 2400mm x 1200mm. they come in square edges for plastering and tapered egdes for drylining. the drylining method entails fixing the boards with 40mm gyproc screws and filling the screw holes and the egdes of the board with gyproc easi-fill. This can be done to a reasonable finish by anyone with time and a bit of DIY knowlege

construction

a stud wall consists of a head, a sole and legs. the legs are fixed with 3" nails through the head and the sole at 400mm centres. however, and heres a trade secret for you, make the distance betwen your first and second stud 375mm this will ensure your boards finish in the centre of the a stud, enabling your next board to fix onto it. when measuring your legs, measure both ends of the room along the lenght of the wall in case the floor and ceiling is running out of level and allow about a quarter of an inch gap clearence. Mark your centres on your head and sole and then nail the legs. once nailed, nail a row of noggins through the centre, this adds stability. lift the wall up into place and fix it top and bottom every 3 ft (900mm). Once it's fixed you may need to add further noggins to attach socket boxes, switches etc. It can then be boarded either with square egded or tapered boards. If your going to give it a double skin of boards, rememebr to stagger the joints. i.e if your first board it 1200mm make the first board of your second skin 0r 900. fix the boards with gyproc screws, easier than nailing, 40mms for single skin, your second skin will need at least 50mms. If your going to insulate it with cosy wrap, (sorry slang name for rockwool) board one side first. It might seem obvious but i did have one of my apprentices ring me and say "i can't get the cosy wrap to stay in the wall". cosy wrap is 400mm wide so should fit between your studs quite nicely. If your room is higher than 2.400mm you will also need a row of noggins 2.400 mm high to catch your next row of boards.

ps the method i have described assumes you have enough room to build your wall on the floor and lift it into place. if it has to be built in situ, simply fastenign your head and your sole to the ceiling and the floor and fix your legs individually.
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Re: Studio construction materials

Postby Steve Hill » Thu Jan 05, 2006 1:17 am

Paul Woodlock wrote:
Rocksil RS45/Rockwool RWA45 - 45kg/m3 and..

Rocksil RS60/Rockwool RW3 - 60 kg/m3 are...

The rough equivelents or 703 and 705.

I'm slightly confused here. Mattrpg says the 705 is 6 lb/cu ft. If you bear with my maths for a moment -

1 metre = c.39" so 1 m3 = 59319 cu ins.
1 cu ft = 1728 cu ins
So 1 m3 = 34.21 cu ft.

1 kg is about 2.2 lbs
So 60 kg/m3 is 132 lbs

132 divided by 34.21 equals 3.85 lbs/cu ft.

Roughly speaking, you would need to go up to 100kg/m3 to get to (a little over) 6 lbs/cu ft. I'm happy to be challenged on my maths here!

Otherwise, from the point of view of comparing US and UK brands, is it in fact fair to say RS60 is broadly equivalent to 705?
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Re: Studio construction materials

Postby Sund » Tue Jan 10, 2006 2:10 pm

There is a start kit from a swedish company, that has been sold to a lot of swedish home studios.

http://www.akustikmiljo.se/public/dokument.php?art=330&parent01=198&parent02=248&level2_4=true
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Re: Studio construction materials

Postby narcoman » Sun Jan 22, 2006 2:09 pm

...... amazing.

Just read through this list and it thoroughly astounds me that after all this time, and after looking at what some of you do , that many still do not comprehend the vast distinction between soundproofing and acoustic treatment. How helpful exactly is that for the novice's that frequent here when even some of the "recording professionals" dont know? Auralex foam to soundproof ? COME ON PEOPLE.....
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Re: Studio construction materials

Postby narcoman » Mon Jan 23, 2006 2:50 am

ooooh. that sounds a little tesre on read back. Apologies for any offence or misreadings....
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