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Re: Innovative sounds & recording methods

Postby ZoeB » Sat Feb 13, 2010 11:36 pm

Scraping the backs of two regular knives together can sound a bit like swords when pitched down a few octaves. For a nice synthetic old analogue drum machine style open hi-hat, try spraying an aerosol can. (I spent far too many years tracking before using a proper sequencer, so spent a lot of my teenage years finding weird household sounds to mangle.)
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Re: Innovative sounds & recording methods

Postby Martin Walker » Mon Feb 15, 2010 11:47 am

...and don't forget while you're sampling your aerosols to capture the sound of them being tapped with a finger/beater/wooden spoon etc.

Especially when partly rather than completely full, they make wonderful pitch-wobbling waterphone-style percussive noises.

Try it! 8-)


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Re: Innovative sounds & recording methods

Postby ToxicShock » Mon Feb 22, 2010 1:20 am

I once sampled the sound of me hitting a cheap dynamic mic on a loaf of bread, it made a dull thud but with a sharp percussive attack.

Also good fun is saying a sentence (or singing it) into a sampler, Reversing the sample and learning to say it phonetically. You then re-sample yourself saying (or singing) the backwards version and reverse it again. It never sounds like the original idea and sometimes can sound quite cool.

I got my friend to say Cheeky Monkey and went through the process. It ended up sounding like "Sheeky Mogwai"
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Re: Innovative sounds & recording methods

Postby MarkOne » Mon Feb 22, 2010 12:06 pm

One of the most interesting pad sounds I made was by sampling the fan on a backup hard drive that I had which was quite noisey, I used a SDC about half an inch from the fan and of centre so you didn't get the air noise.

I then pitched it down 2 octaves, used a resonant filter, an LFO or two. Slow Attack, bit of sustain. Very cool.
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Re: Innovative sounds & recording methods

Postby Martin Walker » Mon Feb 22, 2010 1:35 pm

Computers can be great sources of new sounds MarkOne. Once you open your ears to sound possibilities happening all around you, the sky's the limit! 8-)


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Re: Innovative sounds & recording methods

Postby Richie Royale » Mon Feb 22, 2010 1:57 pm

MarkOne wrote:One of the most interesting pad sounds I made was by sampling the fan on a backup hard drive that I had which was quite noisey, I used a SDC about half an inch from the fan and of centre so you didn't get the air noise.

I then pitched it down 2 octaves, used a resonant filter, an LFO or two. Slow Attack, bit of sustain. Very cool.

My fan oven makes a great (or should that be grating) sound when it's on high and the door is open. If you then switch it off, it makes a lovely wind-down sound. It'll be sampled in due course!
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Re: Innovative sounds & recording methods

Postby The Elf » Mon Feb 22, 2010 2:05 pm

Never underestimate the joys of a plastic cup and a good microphone! ;)

I've done everything from a horse race to a tropical rain storm, conga slap to saxophone valve clicks with that combination!
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Re: Innovative sounds & recording methods

Postby geefunk » Mon Feb 22, 2010 4:42 pm

I mostly try and use 'real' sounds in a lot of my recordings. From the obvious (rain, wind, etc) to the not so....

so far I have used:

The sound of a slug eating mildew off my shower curtain. great sound - a kind of 'rasping' - very close mic, dead of the night and holding my breath!

Zips

Rulers boinging on a desk (like you did in school)

old water cooler bottles for drum sounds

coin spins

coin scraping on zips

water shaking in bottles

burping

most of the above can be heard in my track 'soundhead is vulnerable' on my soundhead link below....

I spent a bit of time in NY, and wandered around with a mic - got a lot of snatched conversations, traffic noise, etc. All sorts of things can be used to good effect with the right editing. I interviewed an old man once about certain things to do with Bristol. he got more and more impatient, and his last sentence to me was 'I'm not interested in any of it' - great sample!
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Re: Innovative sounds & recording methods

Postby Arglebargle » Thu Feb 25, 2010 9:56 pm

During one recording session where I had brought all the toys (my big percussion bag), we got great sounds using a kid's toy called 'Spacephones'. Essentially a thin stretchy naked spring reverb with a plastic cone attached at each end. Affixed one end right in front of a microphone, and played with stretching the spring out, hitting it with chopsticks, running them along the length of it, etc. Great sounds. Hit the jackpot by stretching the spring to between 6 to 9 feet out and singing in falsetto through the free end. Got a wonderful etherial vocal sound.
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Re: Innovative sounds & recording methods

Postby Martin Walker » Fri Feb 26, 2010 12:17 am

There are some seriously good suggestions tucked away in this thread

In my opinion the sign of a good sound designer is one who's ears are always open to new possibilities, however bizarre they initially seem.

And with that in mind, I created an excellent velocity-layered 'bass guitar' last week from tapping a vacuum cleaner plastic hose :beamup:

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Re: Innovative sounds & recording methods

Postby Zukan » Fri Feb 26, 2010 9:30 am

Would love to hear the vacuum bass thingy Martin.

I bet tuning it was fun huh? :D
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Re: Innovative sounds & recording methods

Postby Martin Walker » Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:07 pm

Now, now, no sniping please - I sttrreettcchheedd it :D


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Re: Innovative sounds & recording methods

Postby Stephen Bennett » Fri Feb 26, 2010 5:15 pm

AuralSerenity wrote:Thanx Martinwalker. I think I'll love my presence among such knowers.

Anyhow, after starting this thread I did a little internet research and found this out -

http://www.pinoyexchange.com/forums/showthread.php?t=314644,

Its very interesting but some of them are sincerely mistaken there. For instance
'bananaboy' who said
"Jim Morrison of The Doors recorded the vocals on one of their songs (I forgot which) while a girl was, um, performing fellatio on him."

Now that is wrong. that incident occurred in elevator and Pamela (Jim's chick) happen to see all that. No recording of sound or visual was getting done.

What a preposterous myth!

Well, thanx everyone and please continue leaving some interesting dope.

I mixed my 1991 album 'Clarity', naked.

My compter drives generated so much heat that working in my non-air con studio was almost unbearable.

I'm not sure it generated any particularly innovative techniques though!

However, hanging a speaker over a three speed turntable with a cardboard tube on the platter with a few holes in it does create a nice doppler/leslie effect - with multiple speeds!

More hardware hacking http://www.digitalartistshandbook.org/hardware

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Re: Innovative sounds & recording methods

Postby Zukan » Sat Feb 27, 2010 12:36 pm

Martin always works naked.

Infact, when he's at Expo the SOS stand has the longest queue (did that come across a bit porn?).
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Re: Innovative sounds & recording methods

Postby Martin Walker » Sat Feb 27, 2010 4:37 pm

Untrue :round1: :protest: :bouncy:

The reason that the SOS stand alwyas has a long queue is that we take our time chatting to people :beamup:

Interesting link from Stephen though - thanks for that!


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