Bob Bickerton wrote:
The same people that moan about piracy and stealing of their samples, plugins, mp3s, songs albums, lost revenue.
Also refuse to pay for the tools they use.
Are you implying some of the people 'moaning' here refuse to pay for the tools they use? (careful how you answer this one)
And James, it's entirely appropriate for people who have owned a product and been shafted by it to warn future buyers, which is why when anyone ever mentions Waves around here they'll be met with a consistent and resounding chorus of disapproval.
As I said before, as a current client, it's very much in your interest to join the chorus and lobby the company, after all you're the one who's being currently being shafted by their policy - I'm just here to fly the warning flag for future buyers!
No sorry, my comment was meant as a far more generalization than anything specific on these forums.
"IE, the general feeling i get on the internet is that the freeforall downloading is great! I can get all the albums I want for free, then I know people with DAWs that download all the waves plugins for free, and then regardless of whether or not their actual product is anygood they won't make any money because their cd is available for nada on the web."
This doesn't really apply to SOS as here 99% of people have a very disapproving stance on piracy (as it should be)
It's not a consistent and rousing chorus of dissaproval though is it? there's a fair few users of waves on here that are perfectly happy with their waves plugins, some users are begrudgingly happy (me) and finally there are users who either no longer use or have never used their plugins.
The studio I work for has never complained about waves, anymore than digidesign, or any other software company that locks you into their system and then requests money for each upgrade.
I feel i should reiterate to anybody reading and wondering about waves plugins that you don't have to pay the waves upgrade plan, unless you change something on your computer, be that operating system or the like.
Waves also offer VST, AU, and RTAS as standard, many other cheaper alternatives, do not. Maybe converting the code to work in other formats actually costs a bit of time and money too? Hence there will always be solutions that might work better for you, but not always.
Massey for example offer some great and cheap rtas plugins, but when a client brings me a project in logic format and says I want to take the multitracks back home as well, do I convert the whole project to Pro Tools mix the thing using Massey plugs and export the stems back into logic?
No i just mix in logic using my waves, because they give me the same thing in both formats.