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Re: Synthesis and sound design book?

Postby gryfyx » Wed Jul 28, 2010 4:18 pm

Martin Walker wrote:Ironically most musicians starting out with modular synths in the early days did so on a ‘suck it and see’ basis, and discovered many useful things by accident

Fully agreed, Martin. Funniest part is that when you have so so many tutorials in videos and books, you may start feeling that music is methodical and formulaic, which is fatal.

Trial and error technique gives lot of space for innovation. I might forget lot of things that I read, but I'll never forget what I'll figure out on my own.
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Re: Synthesis and sound design book?

Postby hollowsun » Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:22 pm

This is a tutorial wot I writ for Alesis for newbies to the Alesis Fusion.

Analogue Synthesis Tutorial

Although written for Fusion users, it isn't at all 'Fusion-centric' but a real back-to-basics breakdown of what each module does and why and applies to ANY analogue synth, modular, pre-patched, VA, hardware, software, whatever.

I gather some universities use it on their courses... so I've been told.
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Re: Synthesis and sound design book?

Postby Martin Walker » Thu Jul 29, 2010 12:14 pm

hollowsun wrote:I gather some universities use it on their courses... so I've been told.

Fame at last eh Steve? :beamup:

And you're contributing to the education of the nation 8-)


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Re: Synthesis and sound design book?

Postby Exalted Wombat » Thu Jul 29, 2010 12:36 pm

Martin Walker wrote:Ironically most musicians starting out with modular synths in the early days did so on a ‘suck it and see’ basis, and discovered many useful things by accident ;)

When a synth voice had essentially 4 controls, you could work that way. Though I wish someone had told me the concept of balancing other settings so that 99% of a given knob's travel wasn't "dead space" (have I explained that clearly?) a little sooner. Much the same idea as gain staging through a mixer channel. I suppose you MIGHT work it out for yourself, but a little tuition avoids a lot of dead ends.

Once FM synthesis arrived, I think the chance of doing anything useful by pure intuition effectively vanished! Let alone the incredibly powerful but almost impenetrable VAST synthesis engine on my Kurzweil keyboards. Getting anything out of that without "standing on the shoulders of giants" would be highly unlikely!
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Re: Synthesis and sound design book?

Postby Michael Dow » Thu Jul 29, 2010 6:57 pm

Nice, that juno 6 drawbar organ preset i just had a go at on my juno-60 and as i thought, it was exactly the same as one i'd already done :lol:
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Re: Synthesis and sound design book?

Postby Zukan » Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:18 am

Exalted Wombat wrote:
Martin Walker begin_of_the_skype_highlighting     end_of_the_skype_highlighting wrote:Ironically most musicians starting out with modular synths in the early days did so on a ‘suck it and see’ basis, and discovered many useful things by accident ;)

When a synth voice had essentially 4 controls, you could work that way. Though I wish someone had told me the concept of balancing other settings so that 99% of a given knob's travel wasn't "dead space" (have I explained that clearly?) a little sooner. Much the same idea as gain staging through a mixer channel. I suppose you MIGHT work it out for yourself, but a little tuition avoids a lot of dead ends.

Once FM synthesis arrived, I think the chance of doing anything useful by pure intuition effectively vanished! Let alone the incredibly powerful but almost impenetrable VAST synthesis engine on my Kurzweil keyboards. Getting anything out of that without "standing on the shoulders of giants" would be highly unlikely!

Exalted, I think once you get a bit tech anal, like some of us here, then the VAST engine becomes a dream to use.

FM is another ballgame entirely and requires the use of heavy drugs and a social problem.

TBH, I love FM too.
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Re: Synthesis and sound design book?

Postby Zukan » Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:20 am

Martin Walker begin_of_the_skype_highlighting     end_of_the_skype_highlighting begin_of_the_skype_highlighting     end_of_the_skype_highlighting wrote:Ironically most musicians starting out with modular synths in the early days did so on a ‘suck it and see’ basis, and discovered many useful things by accident ;)


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Re: Synthesis and sound design book?

Postby gryfyx » Fri Jul 30, 2010 1:13 pm

Zukan wrote:
Martin Walker begin_of_the_skype_highlighting     end_of_the_skype_highlighting begin_of_the_skype_highlighting     end_of_the_skype_highlighting wrote:Ironically most musicians starting out with modular synths in the early days did so on a ‘suck it and see’ basis, and discovered many useful things by accident ;)


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Epic... LOL.
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Re: Synthesis and sound design book?

Postby Martin Walker » Fri Jul 30, 2010 4:10 pm

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Re: Synthesis and sound design book?

Postby soundbyter » Sat Sep 25, 2010 7:46 pm

For synthesis - Roads' "Computer Music Tutorial"
For sound design - Sonnenschein's "Sound Design"
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Re: Synthesis and sound design book?

Postby Binks » Thu Dec 09, 2010 7:45 pm

I found "The synthesizer cookbook" a very very good read for getting your head round the gritty nitty.
A lot of books these days are written on the computer musician basis and look at particular pieces of software and how to program them.
Also, depending on what synth your using, it may be that there's an "unofficial" guide to it (I know that yamaha had the joy of Ex fr their ex range" and I'm sure they're must be others)

I agree with the trial and error bit, but a good book as well, will help get results (or at least start experiments) that bit quicker
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Re: Synthesis and sound design book?

Postby busamania » Fri Apr 01, 2011 11:37 am

also I need some good tips and technics about sound designing and synthesis modelling.until now I have downloaded many e-documents and articles but they all are telling about mathematical or schematical structures for bowed strings and wind instruments.I throughly understood the theory but I need something more likely hardware based practical applications about modelling synthesis...I have KORG M3 with RADIAS board... :headbang:
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Re: Synthesis and sound design book?

Postby CraigCyril » Sat Jan 28, 2012 9:33 am

Designing Sound" explains the procedural approach to next generation real-time audio, for games, interactive applications and computer animation. Weighing in at 650 pages this extensive work is possibly the best value textbook published on the subject. "Designing Sound" is essential to all sound technology students and practicing sound designers.
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Re: Synthesis and sound design book?

Postby vinnyprez » Mon Aug 20, 2012 11:14 pm

Synth Cookbook by Fred Walsh!
This helped me SO much...
I was lost in Massive, Thor, etc....

BIG BIG HELP!
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Re: Synthesis and sound design book?

Postby Martin Walker » Tue Aug 21, 2012 12:36 pm

Just in case anyone gets confused looking for this, it's actually Welsh's Synthesiser Cookbook:

More details here: www.synthesizer-cookbook.com


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