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Re: Mac mini rumour...

Postby ConcertinaChap » Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:51 pm

Space grey looks OK on the iMac pro but I wouldn't want to wear it myself.

With a bit of luck it'll come with the black magic keyboard with numeric pad. The magic mouse my be ghastly and the trackpad 2 so-so but the keyboard is very, very good.

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Re: Mac mini rumour...

Postby Luke W » Tue Oct 30, 2018 4:30 pm

redlester wrote:There you go.
i5 or i7, 4 core or 6 core, up to 64GB RAM , up to 2TB SSD.
4xTB3, 2xUSB, HDMI.
No idea if it's still user upgradeable?
Entry model is $799. Don't know what the prices are for the higher specs (I could hazard a guess!).

That's quite a nice surprise actually, was hoping for something along these lines...
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Re: Mac mini rumour...

Postby redlester » Tue Oct 30, 2018 4:42 pm

They are availalbe to order on the web site now.

A quick look suggests it comes to just over £3,700 for top of the range spec.

A more modest but respectable quad core i7 with 32GB RAM and a 512GB system drive is under £2k.
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Re: Mac mini rumour...

Postby redlester » Tue Oct 30, 2018 4:47 pm

ConcertinaChap wrote:With a bit of luck it'll come with the black magic keyboard with numeric pad. The magic mouse my be ghastly and the trackpad 2 so-so but the keyboard is very, very good

From the Apple Store:
"In the box:
Mac Mini
Power lead"
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Re: Mac mini rumour...

Postby Dave B » Tue Oct 30, 2018 5:04 pm

You can save a few hundred quid by getting your own RAM. And I don't need a big ssd either. So mine comes more like 1300 quid plus another 250 for the memory. Which isn't _too_ bad - not great though. But I would get a fast, 6 core machine with oodles of ram. Just a shame that none of my devices would work with it ... ;)
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Re: Mac mini rumour...

Postby redlester » Tue Oct 30, 2018 5:05 pm

Am not sure yet that it is user upgradeable. Have seen nothing to say that it is, unless I missed it.

By the way, totally off topic, but is the SOS site displaying post times still in BST rather than GMT, or is it just me?
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Re: Mac mini rumour...

Postby Kwackman » Tue Oct 30, 2018 5:27 pm

redlester wrote:By the way, totally off topic, but is the SOS site displaying post times still in BST rather than GMT, or is it just me?
Log out & back in again, that should sort it.
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Re: Mac mini rumour...

Postby redlester » Tue Oct 30, 2018 5:31 pm

Kwackman wrote:Log out & back in again, that should sort it.

Nice one, cheers.
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Re: Mac mini rumour...

Postby bigfox2 » Tue Oct 30, 2018 5:36 pm

After watching, I have a couple questions. How much of a difference will I see in Pro Tools/Logic in 4 core vs. 6 core?

Secondly, is this machine better than the current iMacs? A friend tells me they do not make Mac Minis to be powerful desktops and I should buy either an iMac or an iMac Pro. I told him the new Mac Minis look like beasts, but now I'm doubting.

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Re: Mac mini rumour...

Postby redlester » Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:01 pm

bigfox2 wrote:Secondly, is this machine better than the current iMacs?

If you want a desktop but don't need to buy a screen, it's no contest!
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Re: Mac mini rumour...

Postby Humble Bee » Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:33 pm

Great!
More than I need!
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But them SDDs are very expensive! Jeez!
Bet they are soldered to. I sort of wanted 1TB... Hmm. May be an external SDD... and 512 internal... or is 256 enough?

The RAM is user upgradable yes?
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Re: Mac mini rumour...

Postby ConcertinaChap » Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:44 pm

redlester wrote:Am not sure yet that it is user upgradeable. Have seen nothing to say that it is, unless I missed it.

The tech specs use the phrase "configurable to" - which is Apple speak for "no, it isn't" - for everything including RAM.

The pricing leaves me not uncomfortable with my iMac Pro :), but in a year or two I could easily see me getting one of these to replace my wife's ageing 2011 Mac Mini.

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Re: Mac mini rumour...

Postby ConcertinaChap » Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:49 pm

bigfox2 wrote:A friend tells me they do not make Mac Minis to be powerful desktops and I should buy either an iMac or an iMac Pro. I told him the new Mac Minis look like beasts, but now I'm doubting.

Well, we're your friends too, I hope ... they do look like beasts. The integrated Intel graphics are possibly the weakest link if you're a gamer but for the likes of us there's plenty of power and plenty of resolution there. As a very happy iMac pro owner, well I don't use anything like the power there except when I'm running multiple virtual machines which I only do now because I can.

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Re: Mac mini rumour...

Postby Luke W » Tue Oct 30, 2018 7:43 pm

ConcertinaChap wrote:The tech specs use the phrase "configurable to" - which is Apple speak for "no, it isn't" - for everything including RAM.

Does look like that may be the case, hardly a shock at this point though I suppose. Bit of a shame still as the cost of the RAM is still insane, maxing it out would roughly double the cost of the machine I just spec'd up!

Still though, when compared to the price of a current Mac Pro, and assuming the new ones when they release will be in a similar range, this new mini could prove to be a decent choice for me when I decide to head back towards a desktop.
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Re: Mac mini rumour...

Postby bigfox2 » Tue Oct 30, 2018 7:49 pm

Thanks for all the detailed answers, friends! I guess my follow-up is if I indeed do have a monitor, would you buy an iMac for music production or the new Mac Mini?
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Re: Mac mini rumour...

Postby Humble Bee » Tue Oct 30, 2018 7:52 pm

It looks like the RAM is user upgradable according to a lot of comments on the web. Can any expert confirm this...

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Re: Mac mini rumour...

Postby ConcertinaChap » Tue Oct 30, 2018 10:16 pm

bigfox2 wrote:Thanks for all the detailed answers, friends! I guess my follow-up is if I indeed do have a monitor, would you buy an iMac for music production or the new Mac Mini?

If we're talking about similar specs otherwise I'd be inclined towards the Mac Mini. Reason being I got an iMac a good few years back and which lasted me quite a while too. When it eventually failed it was the screen itself which was no longer in stock with Apple, so of course the whole machine was scrapped. That turned me off all-in-ones a bit. (Yet here I am with another one. Rational? Me?)

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Re: Mac mini rumour...

Postby redlester » Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:42 pm

Humble Bee wrote:It looks like the RAM is user upgradable according to a lot of comments on the web. Can any expert confirm this...
?

Think am right in saying the last model, the 2014, wasn’t user upgradable? So if they had reversed that policy I would have expected them to have it right at the top of their marketing headlines, not leaving half the world debating whether it is or not.
I will be very surprised if it is.
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Re: Mac mini rumour...

Postby Jumpeyspyder » Wed Oct 31, 2018 1:00 am

Yes, RAM is upgradable, (just looked at the pics on the applestore )
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Re: Mac mini rumour...

Postby Jorge » Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:19 am

Quote from ZDNet,
https://www.zdnet.com/article/the-new-2 ... y-package/
"Yes, Mac mini is configurable up to 64GB and uses industry-standard DDR4 SO-DIMMs. While we don't consider the memory directly end-user accessible, service providers can access the internals of the Mac mini to upgrade the memory."

Quote from Appleinsider,
https://appleinsider.com/articles/18/10 ... e-and-more
"The slots are SO-DIMM slots, and are mostly accessible to the user. In conversations with Apple corporate employees, we've been told that users with a "modicum of skill" can get to the pair of RAM slots." They also mention that the SSD is not user changeable, so you have to use external SSDs for drive expansion.
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