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Re: Behringer Model D

Postby Sam Spoons » Tue Nov 27, 2018 9:48 pm

Bugger, I thought I'd buried that one :blush:
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Re: Behringer Model D

Postby Sam Spoons » Fri Nov 30, 2018 3:02 pm

Well the KeyStep has gone back, I decided I hated the minikeys with a vengeance so any suggestions for a midi controller (Din and USB) with 37 full sized keys and mod/pitch wheels (or ribbons)?
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Re: Behringer Model D

Postby Wonks » Fri Nov 30, 2018 3:23 pm

I looked recently (in conjunction with something on another thread) and there are very few such beasts that actually have a hardware MIDI output, as most seem to have just USB or have mini-keys. And you often get more keys and extra features than you want.

I'd suggest looking down the selection here. Unfortunately you can't filter on full-sized keys, but at least all these have MIDI ports and pitchbend/modulation controls.

https://www.thomann.de/gb/master_keyboards_up_to_49_keys.html?feature-11791=true&feature-11796%5B0%5D=1x%20Out&feature-11796%5B1%5D=1x%20In%2C%201x%20Out&feature-11796%5B2%5D=2x%20Out&feature-11796%5B3%5D=1x%20In%2C%201x%20Out%2C%201x%20Thru&feature-11799=true&filter=true&oa=pra&price-first=0
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Re: Behringer Model D

Postby BillB » Fri Nov 30, 2018 4:38 pm

Quite a nice potential mini controller keyboard is the Akai Miniak
https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/akai-miniak

They tend to show up for £140-170, which means you may be paying for stuff (sounds) you don't need. But my recollection was that the keys (velocity, no aftertouch) and wheels were nice, plus there is an arpeggiator which I think is assignable to MIDI. No USB, but you could add that with a MIDI-USB interface.

Just a thought.
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Re: Behringer Model D

Postby Sam Spoons » Sun Dec 02, 2018 12:53 pm

Thanks guys, useful suggestions.

I did consider a Miniac a while ago, that might be a good option (the synth engine could be pressed into service I'm sure), and the Miditech i2 at Thomann could also be a option. Both have stuff I don't really need and the lack of USB (more for programming than midi I/O TBH) is the only thing that stops the Miniak being a no-brainer.

Going to look at more modern modelling synths, 37 keys is the sweet spot above which I would take the Roland Juno-D. I could find a use for some keyboard sounds too (though as a guitar player I'll only use a keyboard for the odd simple part like bagpipe drones or similar).
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Re: Behringer Model D

Postby dwebb » Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:16 pm

Just noticed a new 1.1.0 firmware update. Release notes here:

http://downloads.music-group.com/softwa ... v1.1.0.pdf

I don't have Gordon Reid's review to hand but I think he mentioned a retriggering issue when playing fast lines which they possibly have addressed in item 4 below:

1. New Synth Tool app for easier configuration of the MODEL D via the USB input.
2. Added new Mac OS support.
3. Improved the Poly Chain function to make it easier to setup and use.
4. Improved re-trigger reliability when playing with legato notes.
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Re: Behringer Model D

Postby Eddy Deegan » Sat Dec 08, 2018 1:30 am

Nice, thanks for the heads-up!
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