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What will Brexit mean for copyright ?

Postby Gone To Lunch » Wed Jan 23, 2019 10:37 am

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Re: What will Brexit mean for copyright ?

Postby blinddrew » Thu Jan 24, 2019 10:21 am

Interesting. I'd assumed Berne would carry but I hadn't thought about Marrakesh.
One wonders about things like ContentID on Youtube though, I've no idea with which set of rightsholders and collection agencies that's been negotiated.
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Re: What will Brexit mean for copyright ?

Postby Guest » Thu Jan 24, 2019 10:53 am

Brexit, I believe, is irrelevant, the copyright laws are a mess. On one hand illegal copying is the norm, on the other hand there is that case involving the Marvin Gaye estate. I'm scared to use a tuba in case I get sued by the estate of a 1920s New Orleans jazz musician. However the EU, that wants almost complete deregulation of the banks so that a few bankers own all wealth, also wants excessive, draconian regulation of copyright.
Too much copyright is in the wrong hands anyway - the Funky Drummer break belongs to James Brown's estate, not the drummer who created it. I believe this is because copyright law is driven by lawyers, not musicians.
A rough rule of thumb is that copyright law usually follows the U.S. precedent.
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Re: What will Brexit mean for copyright ?

Postby blinddrew » Thu Jan 24, 2019 3:08 pm

Interestingly Singapore and South Africa have both recently updated their copyright laws with some fairly progressive changes. Sadly the US is unlikely to follow suit as their politicians are very well bought.
The current EU copyright proposal started off quite promisingly, sadly the content industries got their lobbyists (and their cash) in and we've ended up where we are now.
Still, it looks like everyone is objecting to Article 13 now (from different ends of the spectrum) so I guess that's progress in a way.
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Re: What will Brexit mean for copyright ?

Postby Guest » Thu Jan 24, 2019 3:52 pm

blinddrew wrote:The current EU copyright proposal started off quite promisingly, sadly the content industries got their lobbyists (and their cash) in and we've ended up where we are now.
Still, it looks like everyone is objecting to Article 13 now (from different ends of the spectrum) so I guess that's progress in a way.

I think the EU civil servants are being lobbied by the legal equivalent of the special forces, under the orders of the multinational industries - neither of whom know anything about the creative arts or how they work. Although I hate the EU, I am in no doubt that when we leave we will still follow either the U.S. or EU rulings. As I said, I don't think our membership is relevant in this instance.
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Re: What will Brexit mean for copyright ?

Postby blinddrew » Thu Jan 24, 2019 4:07 pm

Agreed there for sure.
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Re: What will Brexit mean for copyright ?

Postby blinddrew » Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:39 pm

Rather depressingly it appears that article 13 has made it through to the next round of tripartite discussions. :(
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Re: What will Brexit mean for copyright ?

Postby Guest » Wed Feb 13, 2019 10:50 am

I think the main problem with copyright is creative music skills are not appreciated. For instance, last year I was in a respected department store and I had to wait for them to get something. During this time the assistant asked me what I did, so I told her I was a musician. She used this to launch into a rodomontade about her son: 'my son is only eleven but he's a genius at music, you would me so impressed with what he does on his computer'.
I'm certain that she would not be able to tell the difference between what I do and this indulged eleven year old.
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Re: What will Brexit mean for copyright ?

Postby Stickman0_3 » Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:05 pm

Hear, hear Still Vibration.
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Re: What will Brexit mean for copyright ?

Postby ef37a » Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:32 pm

Err? You mean that Brexit that may or may not happen by 2030?

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Re: What will Brexit mean for copyright ?

Postby Sam Spoons » Tue Feb 26, 2019 2:45 pm

We can but hope.....
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Re: What will Brexit mean for copyright ?

Postby ReadySaltedChris » Fri Mar 22, 2019 6:35 pm

Still Vibrations wrote:I think the main problem with copyright is creative music skills are not appreciated. For instance, last year I was in a respected department store and I had to wait for them to get something. During this time the assistant asked me what I did, so I told her I was a musician. She used this to launch into a rodomontade about her son: 'my son is only eleven but he's a genius at music, you would me so impressed with what he does on his computer'.
I'm certain that she would not be able to tell the difference between what I do and this indulged eleven year old.

Indulged? Why is that? Cos his mum was proud?
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