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Postby MadManDan » Mon Feb 25, 2019 5:52 am

Hi.

So I have a mac mini hooked to a very humble 32" tv. Really not so clear trying to see all the details of pro tools. I decided... hey... maybe I could go to system preferences and try to magnify the image on screen.

I took it from 1080i, I believe it was, to... the last setting at the bottom.

Now my monitor won't recognize it. And of course that means I cannot see how to change it back.

I rebooted the mini, figuring "Hey, maybe the monitor change did not stick."

Ummmm no such luck. It did. :headbang:

NOW WHAT :oops:

Feel so embarrassed and helpless MMD
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Re: OK Done f==d myself

Postby ef37a » Mon Feb 25, 2019 7:13 am

This is a problem when using TVs, especially older models with computers, they don't recognize all the scan rates.

I have used an FSTV as a monitor for many years, present incumbent a smart(ish) 42" JVC and had no problems but some years ago I was warning folk to keep a Bog S VGA monitor about the place for just such an eventuality as yours. You can pickup monitors for £15-£20 from charity shops. British Heart Foundation are good.

Do macs have the equivalent of Safe Mode? That might put the scan rate back to a standard the telly likes.

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Re: OK Done f==d myself

Postby Rich Hanson » Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:00 am

Found the following on the Apple discussion board:

The "approved method" to fix bad screen settings is to use Safe mode (hold shift at Startup).

Safe Mode has a bunch of things it does differently.

It first does a five minutes or so File System check, before loading MacOS.

It loads the smallest possible number of Apple-only extensions. In particular, it does NOT load the accelerated graphics drivers. This means screen refresh will be quirky and slow.

The other thing Safe Mode does for you is to ignore almost every preference, and use a default instead. This is useful in the case, for example, where you set the screen resolution to something wonky, and you need to recover. Since a default is used, you get a picture. In addition, any changes you make in Safe Mode will "stick" in regular mode after you restart.

The first Restart in Regular Mode takes slightly longer, because some system caches are rebuilt.
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Re: OK Done f==d myself

Postby ConcertinaChap » Mon Feb 25, 2019 4:53 pm

ef37a wrote:Do macs have the equivalent of Safe Mode?

Rich has covered it nicely. You don't need safe mode very often but it can be a life saver when you do.

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Re: OK Done f==d myself

Postby MadManDan » Tue Feb 26, 2019 3:13 am

I'm using a wireless keyboard. All I have. Googling this I read that I hold shift once I hear the start up chime. Have tried several times, no joy.
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Re: OK Done f==d myself

Postby Dave.P » Tue Feb 26, 2019 7:23 am

It should work with a wireless keyboard - at least an Apple one. It did for me when I had to use recovery mode.
Hold down the key you need straight after the startup noise.

A few options that might help are listed here - https://www.howtogeek.com/189104/troubl ... p-options/

Hope you get it fixed....
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Re: OK Done f==d myself

Postby ef37a » Tue Feb 26, 2019 7:24 am

MadManDan wrote:I'm using a wireless keyboard. All I have. Googling this I read that I hold shift once I hear the start up chime. Have tried several times, no joy.

Odd, I have just tried a PC that is on a wireless kbd and trackpad and tapping DEL as it starts gets me the BIOS screen so I dare say I could also boot it to Safe Mode?

A quick Google show basic USB wired Apple keys for $10 up?

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Re: OK Done f==d myself

Postby ConcertinaChap » Tue Feb 26, 2019 8:52 am

I think it does have to be a wired keyboard with at least some Macs, like my iMac Pro, for instance.

If you've got or can borrow a PC USB keyboard you can use one of those just as well. For this sort of thing it doesn't have to be an Apple keyboard.

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Re: OK Done f==d myself

Postby MadManDan » Wed Feb 27, 2019 4:51 am

Sooooo...

I got a usb keyboard today. Tried holding down shift while powering up. Almost the same result as when I use the wireless. Meaning, the white apple shows up on the screen, and a white line starts at the left and gets longer until it gets to the right. Only difference was that it seemed to maybe pause a bit, about halfway through.

But no safe mode. It simply goes blank after that and the error from my philips tv comes on telling me, buddy, I don't recognize this signal.

As far as the new keyboard, whoo boy. To be scientific , I plugged it into my pc and was going to report that it worked, and was using to write this post. In reality, it is a piece of junk, with at least one dead key. Both shift keys work though. Was able to type upper and lower letters. Just... not "g" :headbang:
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Re: OK Done f==d myself

Postby ConcertinaChap » Wed Feb 27, 2019 9:02 am

'Struth! I think you must have done something to upset the ghost of Steve Jobs and propitiation through strange rituals may be required. Have you got a virgin to hand you can sacrifice?

You mention your PC. Have you tried connecting the screen from that instead of the TV to make sure the video circuitry is OK? If it is then it is usually possible with some combination of plugs and adaptors to connect two screens to a Mac Mini. This might enable you to get at the display settings for the TV on the screen from the PC. Failing that I'm out of ideas. Maybe time to take it to a Mac repair shop.

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Re: OK Done f==d myself

Postby MadManDan » Wed Feb 27, 2019 2:26 pm

CC wow on that first thought. No sacrificial lambs here. When my sons are voting age they can choose that for themselves. :round1:

A.f.a. the pc, it is a laptop.

Guess I'm on my way to the genius bar to face some condescending hipster
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Re: OK Done f==d myself

Postby ConcertinaChap » Wed Feb 27, 2019 4:23 pm

MadManDan wrote:A.f.a. the pc, it is a laptop.

Shame, a desktop machine would have been so useful right now.

MadManDan wrote:Guess I'm on my way to the genius bar to face some condescending hipster

Best of luck. I still worry that the problem might be hardware rather than software, i.e the video circuitry went belly up and the symptom was the message from the TV, but hopefully I'm just being a Jeremiah and your hipster will politely, willingly and happily make everything better.

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Re: OK Done f==d myself

Postby MadManDan » Mon Mar 11, 2019 6:49 pm

Hello all

After several unfruitful trips to local mac repair centers I have concluded the following : all computers and peripherals, being sentient, share special unique emotional bonds with each other that only they get.

I'm serious! Every monitor is set ever so slightly different from others. To the point where I am about to lug my 32" tv to the tech to set it up.

So frustrating. The irony is that I've been kicking around the purchase of a new 4k monitor. Which would make this repair unnecessary. But funds are tight and I hate being forced. I have work coming up and want to get ready.

Wish me well. Mad man Dan
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Re: OK Done f==d myself

Postby ConcertinaChap » Mon Mar 11, 2019 8:07 pm

I wish you well.

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Re: OK Done f==d myself

Postby Watchmaker » Mon Mar 11, 2019 8:54 pm

ConcertinaChap wrote:'Struth! I think you must have done something to upset the ghost of Steve Jobs and propitiation through strange rituals may be required. Have you got a virgin to hand you can sacrifice?CC

Face east, light two black candles, face east again. Draw an imaginary circle in front of you (in blue light) and say three times "everything around you that you call life, was made up by people that were no smarter than you." Have some brandy and a shower and buy that hipster a razor.

I don't know if that will help, but an Apple is not worth a virgin.
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Re: OK Done f==d myself

Postby ConcertinaChap » Tue Mar 12, 2019 1:42 am

That's virgin on the ridiculous :)

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Re: OK Done f==d myself

Postby Watchmaker » Tue Mar 12, 2019 2:07 am

Nothings coming to me :oops:
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Re: OK Done f==d myself

Postby MadManDan » Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:25 pm

Hi. Well bad news is I never resolved this issue. Good news is I will now get a decent 32" monitor which I really did need. I do have to get https://www.bestbuy.com/site/startech-6 ... Id=4506325. As the mac mini has thunderbolt 2 and the monitor has displayport. Wish me luck. MmD

Ps once I have that hooked up I technically can view and change the settings on the old tv. Might be nice as a second screen eh
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Re: OK Done f==d myself

Postby ConcertinaChap » Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:50 pm

Maybe. I hope so. You deserve a good resolution after this lot.

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Re: OK Done f==d myself

Postby MadManDan » Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:14 pm

ConcertinaChap wrote:You deserve a good resolution after this lot.

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Yes, thank you. Nice double entendre btw (the non-naughty kind)
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