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Re: Good USB sound module?

Postby ConcertinaChap » Mon Apr 08, 2019 2:48 pm

Look, everybody, I'm sorry, I sent the discussion down entirely down the wrong path by mentioning ease of use. FWIW I have a Hobbytronics USB to DIN converter and a JV1080 and a JV1010, believe it or not, both fully loaded with expansion cards.

What I'm really interested in is simplicity of setup. So many keyboards nowadays don't come with MIDI DIN ports, only USB, Including my wife's, that I found myself wondering if there were any sound modules capable of USB hosting, i.e. a type A port. Such a sound module could be connected to a keyboard by USB with no need for a computer or a USB/DIN converter or anything else except a piece of cable. Battery operation and ease-of-use are nice-to-haves that unfortunately got picked up by people. Very much my fault there.

What I am getting from you, though, is that USB hosting in sound modules is pretty rare. This surprises me as with the world gradually moving away from the venerable DIN plug to USB I would have thought this a genuine sales point.

Sorry, chaps.

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Re: Good USB sound module?

Postby The Elf » Mon Apr 08, 2019 3:09 pm

Yeah, I know what you mean, but the standard currency for instrument-to-instrument connection remains DIN, and long may it continue to be so! Personally I'd replace the piano! :lol:

A decent Kurzweil would give you all the piano you'd ever need AND all the other sounds!
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Re: Good USB sound module?

Postby Sam Spoons » Mon Apr 08, 2019 3:50 pm

Or one of those utterly wonderful (and unashamedly red) Nord Stage Pianos :D
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Re: Good USB sound module?

Postby ConcertinaChap » Mon Apr 08, 2019 4:15 pm

OK, so I know what to expect for Christmas from you wonderful lads.

Er, lads? Lads?

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Re: Good USB sound module?

Postby ef37a » Mon Apr 08, 2019 6:13 pm

I am not really in the present company but I have dabbled with MIDI for son and know at least what a Sound Module is!

I would therefore like to put my spoke in heavily and say "MIDI users of the world rise up!"

"They" are trying to get rid of the DIN. USB is fine but it cannot do what DIN in and out can ("thru" might be a lost cause?) SO many AIs are now made sans MIDI and many are quite expensive models. RME, bless 'em, still fit DIN ports on almost all their AIs (two sets on some) and breakout sockets where space precludes. There is a move to 3.5mm stereo jack, better than nothing I suppose.

BTW I have an 80 quid MIDI Ekeys 49* controller that is USB but also sports a DIN out and I KNOW it can run MIDI to two computers simultaneously coz we done it!

*Borrowed by grandson who is now in China. Must retreive that from his mum's pad!

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Re: Good USB sound module?

Postby Escapegoat » Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:11 pm

Y'all are failing to check the obvious thing! The P-115 is advertised as working with the iPad; Garageband is free, and includes squillions of decent instruments that are easy to dial up.

Of course, an iPad isn't free, but it's way cheaper than an equivalent MIDI module. My 2018 iPad was £200 used.

See here for the many ways Yamaha does this: https://uk.yamaha.com/files/download/ot ... _om_j0.pdf - so no doubt, you just need the relevant widget for connectivity - probably the one mentioned above.
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Re: Good USB sound module?

Postby ConcertinaChap » Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:11 am

Not too obvious because it's mentioned in the P-115's manual nowhere. Thanks for the thought but I've decided to use the JV1010 along with the Hobbytronics USB DIN converter, both of which I already have and hence will cost me nothing. I'm going to see if I can make some sort of framework to hold them and associated bits like psu for the converter so as to make setup as straightforward as possible for the band when I'm not around.

Thanks all.

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Re: Good USB sound module?

Postby Wonks » Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:14 am

Simples!

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Re: Good USB sound module?

Postby The Elf » Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:21 am

That's the hi-hat patch recorded - re-patch for the ride cymbal...
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Re: Good USB sound module?

Postby ConcertinaChap » Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:58 am

Where would you keep the nuclear power plant? Can't help but admire the ergonomic placing of the keyboards, though.

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Re: Good USB sound module?

Postby MarkOne » Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:08 am

ConcertinaChap wrote:...I've decided to use the JV1010 along with the Hobbytronics USB DIN converter, both of which I already have and hence will cost me nothing. I'm going to see if I can make some sort of framework to hold them and associated bits like psu for the converter so as to make setup as straightforward as possible for the band when I'm not around.

Thanks all.

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So my thought is get:

1U Rack Tray: https://www.studiospares.com/ProductDetail.aspx?p=408890
1U Gig Bag https://www.studiospares.com/ProductDetail.aspx?p=487000

Then you shoud be able to mount the JV1010, the Hobytronics converter, the PSU and all the associated cables in there. Should be quite compact and tidy...

You basically should be able to rock up, plug in the power and the USB lead and play :thumbup:
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Re: Good USB sound module?

Postby Sam Spoons » Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:44 am

Or sticky velcro? I stick a battery power supply to various things (Boss MicroCube amp, MultiFX unit) pedals to boards, and other stuff. Stick the midi unit and PSU to the 1010 and bung it in a bag......
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Re: Good USB sound module?

Postby ConcertinaChap » Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:47 am

I certainly had velcro in mind - still tons of the stuff in the house from the days when my wife had stands in gift trade fairs - but MarkOne's idea looks well worth looking into (with velcro, of course).

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Re: Good USB sound module?

Postby ef37a » Tue Apr 09, 2019 3:04 pm

Don't know it but line lump PSUs are the very divil for spewing out hum or, in the case of the SM variety, a field of 100Hz modulated RF.
Tidy up by all means but PSUs will likely have to be a good two feet from any audio wires.

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Re: Good USB sound module?

Postby ConcertinaChap » Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:14 pm

Good point, thanks.

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