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Re: BBC repair shop bass restoration

Postby Johnston » Sat Apr 27, 2019 10:19 am

Sam Spoons wrote:I've finally got around to watching the program and it does appear that the owner wanted to have an instrument he would play and cherish so maybe ultimate value was not a major consideration.

Neither was structural integrity! :thumbdown:

In thirty/forty years when Hot Chocolate dude's son is too old to care about this, or dead, it's simply going to be a 1965 Jazz Bass with a ruined neck that will get parted out.

The producers of the show should hang their heads in shame
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Re: BBC repair shop bass restoration

Postby Sam Spoons » Sat Apr 27, 2019 10:40 am

TBF, the luthier has a good rep and clearly knows what he's doing, I'm sure the decision was a considered one. I still think it will devalue the guitar but I'd be surprised if he risked compromising it's structural integrity (I have been wrong in the past though).
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Re: BBC repair shop bass restoration

Postby Johnston » Sat Apr 27, 2019 12:15 pm

I've checked out his website and facebook fairly thoroughly and if he *is* some sort of master craftsman he's kept it well hidden. He makes slightly dated looking guitars out of flame maple, and seems good at it, but that's a very different thing to being a good restorer.

Check out the repair of this sixties Vox Bass neck- incredible work given that there was significant missing wood, and the guy who did it completely kept the original patina and matched the lacquer on the replacement wood too:

https://www.facebook.com/pg/Retro169/ph ... n__=-UCH-R
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Re: BBC repair shop bass restoration

Postby Martin Walker » Sat Apr 27, 2019 1:13 pm

Johnston wrote:Check out the repair of this sixties Vox Bass neck- incredible work given that there was significant missing wood, and the guy who did it completely kept the original patina and matched the lacquer on the replacement wood too:

https://www.facebook.com/pg/Retro169/ph ... n__=-UCH-R

Now that IS a very impressive and sympathetic repair Johnston! :clap:


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Re: BBC repair shop bass restoration

Postby Sam Spoons » Sat Apr 27, 2019 1:22 pm

Yes it is and it's the way I would have liked to see the Jazz restored but choices were made and we've all questioned them. But, it's still an all original 1966 Fender Jazz bass with decent provenance and a slightly famous owner who's son seems pleased with the work. Any suggestion that the neck's structural integrity has been compromised is pure speculation but early fenders were usually solidly built so I'd be inclined to give the befit of the doubt.
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Re: BBC repair shop bass restoration

Postby Johnston » Sat Apr 27, 2019 4:37 pm

Sam Spoons wrote:Yes it is and it's the way I would have liked to see the Jazz restored but choices were made and we've all questioned them. But, it's still an all original 1966 Fender Jazz bass with decent provenance and a slightly famous owner who's son seems pleased with the work. Any suggestion that the neck's structural integrity has been compromised is pure speculation but early fenders were usually solidly built so I'd be inclined to give the befit of the doubt.

Sure but the son doesn't know anything about bass guitars and doesn't play, as he said in the programme. He'd have been happy if the guy resprayed the body and put some seymour duncans on it and told him that's what you do with an old bass. HIs opinion is irrelevant. ;)

And yes, suggesting the necks structural integrity is compromised is speculation. Speculation based on the fact you could see it was already bending under tension when delivered and the knowledge that Jazz bass necks are, and always have been very slim.

Of course we could give him the benefit of the doubt, but for what reason? Ultimately dude was filmed on television doing something to a vintage bass that absolutely no serious restorer of musical instruments would do, and if you put yourself in that position you deserve to have your work criticised.

anyway, I've worked myself up enough about this...onwards! upwards!
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Re: BBC repair shop bass restoration

Postby Sam Spoons » Sat Apr 27, 2019 6:34 pm

Fair enough. :thumbup:
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Re: BBC repair shop bass restoration

Postby Agharta » Sat Apr 27, 2019 10:17 pm

BigRedX wrote:I don't see what the fuss is all about.
It's old, but it's by no means unique. It's just a mass-produced instrument previously used by the bassist in a minor 70s pop band.
I don't recall anything about their bassist but they were hardly a minor league pop band based on record sales as 29 top 40 hits and two number one albums confirms:
https://www.officialcharts.com/artist/1 ... chocolate/

I heard one of their AFAIK less famous songs on BBC 6M recently and the DJs were saying that they were a more interesting band than their big hits suggested and it did make me think of checking them out.
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