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Re: Replacement for Bose 802

Postby NickBellows » Sun Jul 28, 2019 10:08 am

Well, here's the promised update.
Got the Yamahas ( a good deal on new ones).
Used them at wedding gig last night.
Not a fair test really as over-running wedding speeches meant we couldn't eq the room beforehand and just had to get started.
However - they were amazing. We couldn't believe the difference. Our dance caller who was on the floor with radio mic couldn't quite believe the extra clarity, each of us was far more distinctive. Also he could be nearer the speakers without fear of feedback.
Absolutely sufficient for our bass too. A far richer sound.
Can't wait to try them when we have room eq sorted next time.
Easy to handle and the omission of the amp (meaning a 2u rather than 4u flight case) meant that the whole lot fitted in my boot without folding seats down.
Really grateful for all help here, it has made a big difference and I am very popular with the rest of the band too for doing this.
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Re: Replacement for Bose 802

Postby Wonks » Sun Jul 28, 2019 10:21 am

Great news, Nick. Glad we could help.
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Re: Replacement for Bose 802

Postby Sam Spoons » Sun Jul 28, 2019 1:38 pm

:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: There is a reason the Yamaha DXRs get a lot of love on here. Don't forget to register them for the extended, 7 year warrantee (it's unlikely that you'll need it but it gives a little extra peace of mind).
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Re: Replacement for Bose 802

Postby AlecSp » Sun Jul 28, 2019 3:50 pm

Moving from old "OK in its day" speakers to contemporary actives is a revelation, isn't it.

Not only is there the loss of an amp rack to benefit from (often without gaining too much weight in the speakers), the quality and resilience if often waay better.

And good to see another application where 10" speakers are more than adequate. Although my RCF ART 722s sound the absolute business, by 710s are so close behind that they often get taken out to shows as they're quite a bit shorter/lighter.
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Re: Replacement for Bose 802

Postby DanR » Sun Jul 28, 2019 4:33 pm

Sam Spoons wrote: Don't forget to register them for the extended, 7 year warrantee (it's unlikely that you'll need it but it gives a little extra peace of mind).

Oops :? Just checked and this needs to be done within 6 months of purchase. I bought them in August 2014.
Have done it anyway.

Glad that the DXRs are working well for Nick’s band. I bought mine for keyboard amplification/stereo monitoring.
I use about 1/4 of their power for this and would like to stick them upfront for PA duties
but then no keyboard amp.
Ideally I’d have a stereo combo for keyboards but there’s very limited choice available.
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Re: Replacement for Bose 802

Postby NickBellows » Sun Jul 28, 2019 7:10 pm

I am going to have to contact Yamaha tomorrow. I registered the speakers, but only got 5 years.
Thanks again for feedback.
It'll be a few weeks until I can properly find their full potential. Venue for gig next Saturday has the worst acoustics of anywhere we play. One of those places where positions just a couple of metres apart have completely different acoustics / volume. Of course it is possible the DXRs will perform a lot better there.
I suppose it will test them out though.
By the way I got the Stagg covers - they look good.
I'll need to get longer IECs.
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Re: Replacement for Bose 802

Postby AlecSp » Sun Jul 28, 2019 9:46 pm

Don't forget to play with the dual angle pole sockets. In many situations, using the 7 degree angle will help get more sound where you want it (ears) and less where you don't want it (reflective surfaces).

Yes to decent length IEC cables for powered speakers, ideally with decent flex that lays flat and coils nicely.
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Re: Replacement for Bose 802

Postby Wonks » Sun Jul 28, 2019 10:27 pm

You'll probably have to make your own long IEC leads up. Hard to find really long IEC leads, especially ones that have a decent flexible cable that isn't too stiff. It's not hard to do.
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Re: Replacement for Bose 802

Postby AlecSp » Sun Jul 28, 2019 10:37 pm

Wonks wrote:You'll probably have to make your own long IEC leads up. Hard to find really long IEC leads, especially ones that have a decent flexible cable that isn't too stiff. It's not hard to do.
The only challenge I've ever had was finding re-wirable IEC sockets that were easy to connect up - what have you had success with?
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Re: Replacement for Bose 802

Postby Wonks » Sun Jul 28, 2019 10:54 pm

I used to use ones from Maplin. A bit fiddly but worked fine once assembled. But since they've gone, I haven't needed any, so can't recommend another supplier.
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Re: Replacement for Bose 802

Postby Sam Spoons » Mon Jul 29, 2019 12:21 am

Depends how fiddly you consider 'fiddly'. On a scale of 1-10 13A plugs rate 1 and D-Subs around 9 I'd say the IEC connectors I've use rate 2-3 so not too difficult.
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Re: Replacement for Bose 802

Postby NickBellows » Mon Jul 29, 2019 8:44 am

Made up iECs seem to be 5m or 10m. Either too long for us, or too short (I'd rather not have too much excessive cable lying around). It looks like I shall make some up at 7m. I can definitely get hold of the connectors.
I am not sure about the best cable to use though - how can I tell if it will lay flat?
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Re: Replacement for Bose 802

Postby Wonks » Mon Jul 29, 2019 8:51 am

I found cable with rubber outer insulation works better than cable with PVC insulation for laying flat. Far more flexible IMO. It's al;so got a matt finish, so less reflective than most PVC cables as well.
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Re: Replacement for Bose 802

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Re: Replacement for Bose 802

Postby Sam Spoons » Mon Jul 29, 2019 10:24 am

I inherited a couple when I took over PA for a now defunct band but I find them heavy and difficult to coil so don't use them. Obviously YMMV. What I do use (which is also heavy and difficult to coil :oops: ) is a couple of these https://www.diy.com/departments/masterplug-5-socket-13-a-extension-lead-15-m-blue/244075_BQ.prd

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