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Postby The Elf » Wed Aug 14, 2019 10:13 am

https://youtu.be/B-HhNJbBPuQ

I predict that it will never be widely know as the 'RD-8'.

Pity about the external PSU, and I have doubts there will be potential for my usual mod since the case looks very compact. Hopefully my engineer will work some magic.

There are some clever improvements on the old technology in this new version. As long as it retains the sound of the original it's surely going to be a winner?
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Re: Behringer RD-8

Postby N i g e l » Wed Aug 14, 2019 1:42 pm

The Elf wrote:https://youtu.be/B-HhNJbBPuQ

I predict that it will never be widely know as the 'RD-8'.

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Re: Behringer RD-8

Postby FrankF » Wed Aug 14, 2019 5:22 pm

Yeah, but does it have after-touch? (With apologies to Nick Batt.)
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Re: Behringer RD-8

Postby The Elf » Thu Aug 15, 2019 2:07 pm

Anyone care to rustle me up a couple of carefully copied orange '08' stickers?... :tongue: ;)
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Re: Behringer RD-8

Postby FrankF » Thu Aug 15, 2019 2:20 pm

I'm assuming it only has the 808 sounds, which is a bit too retro-purist for my wallet.
I'd be much more interested in this box if it had oodles of kits inside it.
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Re: Behringer RD-8

Postby DGL. » Thu Aug 15, 2019 4:12 pm

FrankF wrote:I'm assuming it only has the 808 sounds, which is a bit too retro-purist for my wallet.
I'd be much more interested in this box if it had oodles of kits inside it.
We'll it's a fully analogue recreation of an 808 so not modelling or samples so 808 is naturally all you've got.
But at less than £300 and therefore less than the boutique it's at a crazy price.
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Re: Behringer RD-8

Postby The Elf » Thu Aug 15, 2019 4:21 pm

FrankF wrote:I'm assuming it only has the 808 sounds, which is a bit too retro-purist for my wallet.
I'd be much more interested in this box if it had oodles of kits inside it.
As DGL says, this is true analogue. Can you imagine the circuitry that would be required to replicate multiple machines in there!?!

If you're happy with samples or modelling there are many other options.
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Re: Behringer RD-8

Postby FrankF » Thu Aug 15, 2019 5:12 pm

That's why I said "retro-purist": I mean, how difficult would it be to just bung a sound chip in there with 500 samples on it? Like a, well, a hybrid machine, a best of both worlds, ancient and modern, chimaerical beastie.
I had an 808 in the late 80s, so I appreciate the separate outs and the 16-step dynamic programming (or whatever it's called!), but the sounds have been done to death, resurrected, and then killed all over again several times in the last 3 decades. Mind you, if they added some samples of Simmons toms, for example... :lol:
I've had a Yamaha RY30 since 1992 (and it still works!!): it has a thumb-wheel that allows you to alter pitch, pan, etc. in real-time: now imagine if all drum-machines had that! I blame the EU for not making it mandatory on all beat-boxes from 1990 onward.
DGL. wrote:But at less than £300 and therefore less than the boutique it's at a crazy price.

Agreed, that is a cracking price: I'd almost be tempted to buy it as a midi-trigger for old beat-boxes with knackered pads, or even keyboard drums.
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Re: Behringer RD-8

Postby desmond » Thu Aug 15, 2019 5:17 pm

FrankF wrote:That's why I said "retro-purist": I mean, how difficult would it be to just bung a sound chip in there with 500 samples on it? Like a, well, a hybrid machine, a best of both worlds, ancient and modern, chimaerical beastie.

Because that's a different product. This one is part of what Behringer are doing, bring the old stuff back to life, with some improved features - not making a random digital drum machine. This is specifically an analog 808, with some extra features.

FrankF wrote:I had an 808 in the late 80s, so I appreciate the separate outs and the 16-step dynamic programming (or whatever it's called!), but the sounds have been done to death, resurrected, and then killed all over again several times in the last 3 decades.

I agree, and feel much the same about the 909, 303, and even 707 etc. But they still prove to be popular, so why not for the people that want them?

FrankF wrote:Mind you, if they added some samples of Simmons toms, for example... :lol:

Because that Simmons thing *hasn't* been done to death? :o

FrankF wrote:I've had a Yamaha RY30 since 1992 (and it still works!!): it has a thumb-wheel that allows you to alter pitch, pan, etc. in real-time: now imagine if all drum-machines had that! I blame the EU for not making it mandatory on all beat-boxes from 1990 onward.

I still have my RM50, the module version, and a few cards and sample ram. While it was great for the time, by today's standards the sounds are fairly boring, and the engine is no better or more flexible than any other drum playback sampler in your DAW.
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Re: Behringer RD-8

Postby FrankF » Thu Aug 15, 2019 5:43 pm

desmond wrote:
FrankF wrote:Mind you, if they added some samples of Simmons toms, for example... :lol:

Because that Simmons thing *hasn't* been done to death? :o

I still have my RM50, the module version, and a few cards and sample ram. While it was great for the time, by today's standards the sounds are fairly boring, and the engine is no better or more flexible than any other drum playback sampler in your DAW.

Oh no, every drum machine should have loads and loads of Simmons sounds, and even more cowbell sounds. ;)
I got rid of my RM50: the minimalist interface made programming it a real pain without the editor.
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Re: Behringer RD-8

Postby The Elf » Thu Aug 15, 2019 5:54 pm

Some of us still have a Simmons module in our rig - that gets used constantly, though only the very golden-eared would know. It is the perfect 'make my drums sound better' magic dust!
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Re: Behringer RD-8

Postby FrankF » Thu Aug 15, 2019 7:49 pm

An original module? I saw Benge use some seriously tattered original pads live with John Foxx several years ago.
Aah, Simmons, the nostalgia! Talk Talk's 1st album, Foxxy's The Golden Section: any other noteworthy "suspects" from the 80s?
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Re: Behringer RD-8

Postby FrankF » Thu Aug 15, 2019 7:55 pm

From Wiki, answering my own question:
Howard Jones, Jez Strode of Kajagoogoo, John Keeble of Spandau Ballet, Roger Taylor of Duran Duran, Darren Costin of Wang Chung, Bobby Z., Rick Allen of Def Leppard, Thomas Dolby, Prince, Phil Collins, Neil Peart, Bill Bruford, Talk Talk, Cameo, Jonzun Crew, Depeche Mode, and Vangelis.

Has anyone tried the new Simmons kits? The name is owned by Guitar Center these days, apparently.
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Re: Behringer RD-8

Postby desmond » Thu Aug 15, 2019 8:11 pm

FrankF wrote:any other noteworthy "suspects" from the 80s?

I always liked Trevor Morais' Simmons drumming on the early Hojo stuff - the 12" to New Song is a case in point:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGVk1BljkCM

But really there was a period in the early 80s where it almost wasn't a modern pop record without a SImmons in there somewhere...
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Re: Behringer RD-8

Postby Rich Hanson » Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:19 pm

Oh the SDS5 - somebody have a word in Uli's ear please :D
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