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Re: A Long List of Compromises - new music space

Postby blinddrew » Mon Dec 09, 2019 9:24 am

Doh! Blame my advancing years...
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Re: A Long List of Compromises - new music space

Postby Wonks » Mon Dec 09, 2019 10:24 am

blinddrew wrote:Doh! Blame my advancing years...

Blimey, Drew! You're getting really old! :D
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Re: A Long List of Compromises - new music space

Postby blinddrew » Sun Dec 15, 2019 6:59 pm

Not the most productive weekend, but mostly focused on the frame for the end set of broadband absorbers:
Testing the frame fit:
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Frame built and set:
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With a couple of panels mounted:
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There will be two smaller panels going on the end of the arms.

Almost done all of the rest of the panel frames but you know what they look like... ;)
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Re: A Long List of Compromises - new music space

Postby jaminem » Sun Dec 15, 2019 11:37 pm

What’s with the trip hazard Drew?
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Re: A Long List of Compromises - new music space

Postby Arpangel » Mon Dec 16, 2019 12:11 am

Those fold-away beds will come in handy when you're too tired to make music...

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Re: A Long List of Compromises - new music space

Postby Watchmaker » Mon Dec 16, 2019 2:33 am

srs biznez Mr. Drew.

accolades with thanks for the may great ideas lurking within
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Re: A Long List of Compromises - new music space

Postby Wonks » Mon Dec 16, 2019 9:20 am

I think it's meant to be moveable, so it can be brought forward if necessary.

However, red might have been a better colour for the Cara material to hide the blood stains. :D
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Re: A Long List of Compromises - new music space

Postby blinddrew » Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:25 am

The trip hazard is to keep it upright. The wall construction doesn't lend itself to bearing heavy loads. So the frame takes the weight with a single wall screw locating things in place (this is the static frame).
It won't be a trip hazard in practice because there'll be a guitar rack either side of it.
Until then it will be a random swear word generator.
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Re: A Long List of Compromises - new music space

Postby Wonks » Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:12 am

Still time to make a floor/wall bass trap at the base. Just sayin' loike.
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Re: A Long List of Compromises - new music space

Postby Music Wolf » Mon Dec 16, 2019 12:37 pm

If the frame is taking the vertical load then all you need to do is make sure that it doesn't pivot away from the wall. If the design was such that the frame leant backwards into the wall then you'd probably not need anything more than a couple of woodscrews at the top to hold it in place (you would need to make sure that base doesn't slide across the floor)
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Re: A Long List of Compromises - new music space

Postby blinddrew » Mon Dec 16, 2019 12:53 pm

Two (and a half) 100mm thick panels is actually quite a bit of leverage, especially since the wood actually has slightly rounded corners. Hence the front leg.
Leaning the frame backwards into the wall woul require starting further out, but I need that floor space for storage.
It's all about the compromise! :)
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Re: A Long List of Compromises - new music space

Postby Folderol » Mon Dec 16, 2019 1:41 pm

If you could find some way to tie the guitar racks to the panels you could do away with the word generator.

Thinking a bit further (I don't charge for this) why not make the panels a part of the guitar racks and detach them from the wall completely?
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Re: A Long List of Compromises - new music space

Postby blinddrew » Mon Dec 16, 2019 2:30 pm

1) because the guitar racks are very lightweight and good only for racking guitars.
2) because I've already built this! :D
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Re: A Long List of Compromises - new music space

Postby Hugh Robjohns » Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:51 pm

The advantage of the DIY approach is that a project can always be revisited and reworked into a Mk II version after some practical experience has been gained and any deficiencies of the Mk I implementation identified. ;-)

I don't consider any of my DIY projects to ever be 'finished'... they are just undergoing 'prototype evaluation'...

My wife is not quite as keen on this engineering development model as I am, for some reason...

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Re: A Long List of Compromises - new music space

Postby Wonks » Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:58 pm

Maybe she's still in extended 'husband evaluation' phase? :D
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Re: A Long List of Compromises - new music space

Postby Hugh Robjohns » Mon Dec 16, 2019 8:33 pm

:shifty: Erm... yes... could be... :? And the warranty has long since expired, too!.
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Re: A Long List of Compromises - new music space

Postby Sam Spoons » Mon Dec 16, 2019 9:43 pm

Wonks wrote:Maybe she's still in extended 'husband evaluation' phase? :D

Thankfully we've reached the end of that phase (I hope anyway). That's not to say the status quo is not up for review from time to time mind you.......
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Re: A Long List of Compromises - new music space

Postby ManFromGlass » Tue Dec 17, 2019 2:27 pm

A serious question for a second -
Drew - are you basing the sizes and numbers of absorbers on the size and shape of the room? Is there customized math/science behind your constructions? (Not being cheeky here)
I ask because I built some based on guesswork, size of absorbing materials available and trial and error. They work but if you found a place on the internet that wouldn’t make my head spin with math calcs I would like to see it.
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Re: A Long List of Compromises - new music space

Postby Wonks » Tue Dec 17, 2019 2:47 pm

I doubt it. Anything that works for a 'rectangular prism' (i.e. a basic room shape) starts to fall apart once you move equipment and furniture into it as the surfaces become far too complex to model mathematically.
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Re: A Long List of Compromises - new music space

Postby Music Wolf » Tue Dec 17, 2019 3:40 pm

Plus I think that the maths starts to fall down for the size of rooms that we're considering here.
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