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Re: X/M32 V4 firmware update released, and Wing news(ish)

Postby Humble Bee » Mon Nov 18, 2019 2:29 pm

Yeah that’s dumb... :(
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Re: X/M32 V4 firmware update released, and Wing news(ish)

Postby The Elf » Mon Nov 18, 2019 2:58 pm

There you go. I find this very disappointing and I genuinely hope I'm wrong.
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Re: X/M32 V4 firmware update released, and Wing news(ish)

Postby resistorman » Mon Nov 18, 2019 4:26 pm

The SD card recorder is disappointing anyhow, you have to use stupidly small cards.
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Re: X/M32 V4 firmware update released, and Wing news(ish)

Postby DGL. » Mon Nov 18, 2019 9:16 pm

Firstly DANTE is supposedly an internal expansion that uses the control/audio network ethernet jacks.

Lastly, inc. 20% VAT, 2,999€

https://www.thomann.de/gb/behringer_wing.htm

Another feature is that stereo channels now only take up 1 fader, so you could have the 20 main faders being 20 stereo channels, whereas on the X32 it would be 2 faders for a stereo channel.
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Re: X/M32 V4 firmware update released, and Wing news(ish)

Postby The Elf » Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:03 pm

DGL. wrote:Firstly DANTE is supposedly an internal expansion that uses the control/audio network ethernet jacks.
Internal? How so? Everything I see points at Dante being an expansion slot option - which precludes using the SD card expansion board.

But if it re-uses those Ethernet (AES50, I assume) connection ports (perfectly sensible to my way of thinking), then... Yes!!! I was told elsewhere that this wouldn't be possible...

And I like that price! :thumbup:
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Re: X/M32 V4 firmware update released, and Wing news(ish)

Postby DGL. » Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:35 pm

From Robert Lofgren, a beta tester, over at the PSW forums,

Robert Lofgren wrote:Wing has two option cards. One internal (populated when ordering) and one external like on the x32.

The internal one can be fitted with either sg or dante. This means that you can record up to 128ch of audio if you want to
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Re: X/M32 V4 firmware update released, and Wing news(ish)

Postby The Elf » Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:42 pm

Sounds promising. What's 'sg'?
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Re: X/M32 V4 firmware update released, and Wing news(ish)

Postby Sam Spoons » Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:55 pm

Stereo channels can be controlled by a single DCA fader on the X32 and the latest firmware, I think, allows custom layers so, although you have only 8 DCAs you can mix and match their faders in a custom layer.

The Wing does look a seriously nice bit of kit for the money though. Not that I'll be selling my X32C anytime soon, it does everything I need and more, especially since I've mostly retired :D .
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Re: X/M32 V4 firmware update released, and Wing news(ish)

Postby DGL. » Mon Nov 18, 2019 11:02 pm

The Elf wrote:Sounds promising. What's 'sg'?
It'll be WSG, or Waves Soundgrid
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Re: X/M32 V4 firmware update released, and Wing news(ish)

Postby The Elf » Mon Nov 18, 2019 11:04 pm

DGL. wrote:
The Elf wrote:Sounds promising. What's 'sg'?
It'll be WSG, or Waves Soundgrid
Gotcha. Thanks.
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Re: X/M32 V4 firmware update released, and Wing news(ish)

Postby Wonks » Mon Nov 18, 2019 11:08 pm

If those are lights pointing down at the I/O connections, then that's a good idea.
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Re: X/M32 V4 firmware update released, and Wing news(ish)

Postby DGL. » Mon Nov 18, 2019 11:17 pm

Wonks wrote:If those are lights pointing down at the I/O connections, then that's a good idea.
Yep, and the brightness is adjustable.
Also, if it wasn't already spotted, the top section is wider that the I/o section so in theory it will fit on a smaller table if necessary.
And Stageconnect will be freely usable by anyone with no licencing cost or cost to acquire the datasheets, that should help adoption of what looks to be a quite useful standard.
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Re: X/M32 V4 firmware update released, and Wing news(ish)

Postby AlecSp » Tue Nov 19, 2019 1:47 am

Sam Spoons wrote:Stereo channels can be controlled by a single DCA fader on the X32 and the latest firmware, I think, allows custom layers so, although you have only 8 DCAs you can mix and match their faders in a custom layer.
Er, no.

If only that were the case, though...
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Re: X/M32 V4 firmware update released, and Wing news(ish)

Postby DGL. » Mon Dec 23, 2019 12:07 am

Wing now in stock at Thomann, ~$2,789/2,520.17€ + 33€ delivery for 'muricin forumites https://www.thomannmusic.com/behringer_wing.htm , 2,999€ for us brits (inc. tax), although I doubt it will be in stock for long.
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Re: X/M32 V4 firmware update released, and Wing news(ish)

Postby The Elf » Mon Dec 23, 2019 11:01 am

Looks like Dante is not implemented yet - in case anyone, like me, has an interest in that aspect.
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