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Re: AKG712 how are they after four years of burn-in ?

Postby SecretSam » Tue Feb 11, 2020 5:44 pm

Thanks Tomas. That makes sense.
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Re: AKG712 how are they after four years of burn-in ?

Postby Martin Walker » Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:18 am

The Elf wrote:It's actually uncanny how close my headphone choice does sound like my favourite monitor speakers - currently AE22s - and I do think this is a major factor in my choice. I do have HD650s here, and they are not at all bad sounding cans at all, but for whatever reason they just don't gel with me like the Ks. Odd innit?

I suspect this is also why I prefer K712's with the Sonarworks correction - they then sound much closer to my little ATC monitor loudspeakers, so do my HD650's 'without' Sonarworks, so I can move between all three relatively easily.


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Re: AKG712 how are they after four years of burn-in ?

Postby Martin Walker » Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:22 am

Tomás Mulcahy wrote:The bass is a bit tubby on the Senns and Sonarworks in mixed filter mode neutralises it.

Yep, after a lot of auditions I've ended up mostly relying on Sonarworks' mixed filter mode for mixing/mastering.

Its Linear Phase mode alters the bass end too much, while Zero Latency mode is perfect during the recording phase when recording, but messes with the phase response too much for my liking when making critical mixing decisions.


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Re: AKG712 how are they after four years of burn-in ?

Postby ManFromGlass » Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:35 am

I ordered the 1840s from a place I could return them to. A big chunk of change item has to really show its worth, and I also installed the Sonarworks demo. Everything stayed. I have some AKGs and a pair of Sonys but I was impressed right away. Plus they fit my odd shaped head and big ears really comfortably, much better than the others. So for me this combo definitely helps me mix better, although I only go to two almost identical studios.
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Re: AKG712 how are they after four years of burn-in ?

Postby SecretSam » Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:28 am

Stop fuelling my GAS, you sadist. And now they have those Audeze LCD1s.

Hm. I was thinking dt880 or 712. You are probably going to cost me a lot of money.
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Re: AKG712 how are they after four years of burn-in ?

Postby Bob Bickerton » Wed Feb 12, 2020 11:26 am

DT880 user here. I ended up using them over the HD650s as they were more comfortable on longer location recording projects and I basically only wanted to get sued to one set of headphones. The 650s were more neutral, but I have no problem working with the 880s.

Can’t comment on AKGs sorry.

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Re: AKG712 how are they after four years of burn-in ?

Postby SecretSam » Wed Feb 12, 2020 11:33 am

Thanks Bob. How do you find the bottom end on the dt880s ?
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Re: AKG712 how are they after four years of burn-in ?

Postby ManFromGlass » Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:11 pm

I partially :tongue: justified the price thinking of the time and money I would not spend fine tuning the rooms, even though the rooms were good to mix in, but not great. I would have to build my own traps, hang them, and then possibly modify them. Lots of driving for materials etc.
so I figured I saved money. How’s that for a fantasy justification?
Besides I haven’t upgraded my original monitors for almost 20 years so again this saved me money, although if I had the dough I’d buy some of the awesome nearfields that have been reviewed here in the past year.
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Re: AKG712 how are they after four years of burn-in ?

Postby Bob Bickerton » Wed Feb 12, 2020 11:58 pm

SecretSam wrote:Thanks Bob. How do you find the bottom end on the dt880s ?

Well I put them on my head and play something through them and ....... that's not what you meant though is it?

The bottom end is a little hyped and overall the sound is not as open as with the HD650s.

I don't use headphones for mixing - I use my PMCs for that, but I do use them for final checking of projects where I'm wanting a different and focussed listening environment to check final mixes.

And as said above, I use them for monitoring of concert recordings where I deem comfort to be a priority. On the Sunday I have four hours of concert to cover - maybe I'll take a set of speakers in too.........

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Re: AKG712 how are they after four years of burn-in ?

Postby SecretSam » Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:43 am

Bob Bickerton wrote:
Well I put them on my head and play something through them and ....... that's not what you meant though is it?

Bob

(Groan .....)

Thanks Bob
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Re: AKG712 how are they after four years of burn-in ?

Postby ConcertinaChap » Sun Feb 16, 2020 9:11 am

As an aside the K702 is currently just £99 new from Amazon. They were £146 when I bought them back in 2015 (and now just about nicely burned in ;) ) and I thought them a bargain then! Amazing value.

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Re: AKG712 how are they after four years of burn-in ?

Postby SecretSam » Wed Feb 19, 2020 1:58 pm

:oops: Thanks CC. That should help towards the mini-Sams' textbook fund.

And I am encouraged to hear that the initial harshness should be over by 2024, by which time we will be able to stop worrying about audio quality while we fret over flooding, forest fires and the sudden appearance of migrating polar bears in Darlington.
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