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How can I get this strumming sound?

Postby aviorrok » Sun Apr 05, 2020 5:53 pm

Hi,
How can I get a similar strumming sound at the start of the song
I tried to play with fender thin pick and cut with EQ the low but it sounds so different
The strumming sounds like a "water" in guitar

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpZMbSyZ9r0
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Re: How can I get this strumming sound?

Postby Wonks » Sun Apr 05, 2020 6:14 pm

Link's broken but presume you meant this video.

https://youtu.be/XpZMbSyZ9r0

Try a thicker or softer pick for a start. The guitar sound isn't that bright, and whilst you can try and EQ, it's easier to get the right sound to start with. Doesn't sound like it's very close miked either and there's no pick definition. It may even just be strummed with fingers.

And of course, you need a balanced sounding acoustic guitar to start with; not too bassy, not too bright.
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Re: How can I get this strumming sound?

Postby Dr Huge Longjohns » Sun Apr 05, 2020 6:46 pm

Both acoustics here are using a pretty standard acoustic sound so experiment a lot with your microphone position. I'd try pointing towards where the neck joins the body for starters, about 30 or so cm away. I think both are played with a plectrum but maybe a light one. I tend to use a .60 thin grey Dunlop one for this kind of sound.
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Re: How can I get this strumming sound?

Postby aviorrok » Sun Apr 05, 2020 7:31 pm

Dr Huge Longjohns wrote:Both acoustics here are using a pretty standard acoustic sound so experiment a lot with your microphone position. I'd try pointing towards where the neck joins the body for starters, about 30 or so cm away. I think both are played with a plectrum but maybe a light one. I tend to use a .60 thin grey Dunlop one for this kind of sound.
I tired your suggests but my guitar sound more "metallic" more acoustic and not like the original song

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QJ76pm ... sp=sharing
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Re: How can I get this strumming sound?

Postby Sam Spoons » Sun Apr 05, 2020 8:08 pm

Try a medium pick but play lightly, and as the good doctor hints, it is two guitars playing slightly different strum patterns. Also remember acoustic guitars vary wildly and string gauges make a huge difference as do new as opposed to 'played in' strings* . To me that sounds like a mid sized guitar, it is nicely balanced with not too much bass. And, probably medium strings (or, at least, not lights).

* I heard of one 'name' producer who insisted on new strings for every session. He always asked the session guitarist if he had fresh strings and if the answer was no he gave the guy a set and docked the cost off his fee. The theory is that if you need to replace a part then you can always fit another new setoff a more consistent sound.
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Re: How can I get this strumming sound?

Postby N i g e l » Sun Apr 05, 2020 8:53 pm

If they are using an electro-accoustic, it might be a blend of direct + mic'd up sound
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Re: How can I get this strumming sound?

Postby CS70 » Sun Apr 05, 2020 8:54 pm

As other say, use a soft pick. But it's also technique - every now and the player is "feathering" the strings, making them head individually instead of a single strum, which gives you that floating feel
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Re: How can I get this strumming sound?

Postby Sam Spoons » Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:56 pm

That doesn't sound like a soft pick to me, not 'clicky' enough.

I agree about 'feathering' the pick though :thumbup:

Maybe I'll try some experiments tomorrow.
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Re: How can I get this strumming sound?

Postby aviorrok » Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:25 pm

Sam Spoons wrote:That doesn't sound like a soft pick to me, not 'clicky' enough.

I agree about 'feathering' the pick though :thumbup:

Maybe I'll try some experiments tomorrow.
I’m waiting for results :)
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Re: How can I get this strumming sound?

Postby Dr Huge Longjohns » Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:46 pm

I tired your suggests but my guitar sound more "metallic" more acoustic and not like the original song

Did you try a whole load of different positions as suggested? Close, far, by neck, by the soundhole. And different microphones? I'm sure if you persevere you'll get the sound you want. Try recording in a different part of the room that's less/more reflective. Try playing closer/further away from the bridge. THe sound will be there if you keep at it, I'm sure.
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Re: How can I get this strumming sound?

Postby johnnypaydirt » Mon Apr 06, 2020 2:27 pm

Hi! One acoustic guitar is down-strummed as normal probably with a thin pick.
The other acoustic guitar, which is what I think you're referring to, is played with the side of a pick (thin or not too thin). The pick is rubbed against the strings in eighth note down-strokes.
This eliminates pick attack. I think it's the creative thing that is being done here. I hope this suggestion gets you closer. Regards to all from Spain!!!
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