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Postby ReadySaltedChris » Mon May 13, 2019 7:26 am

minor yet irritating problem folks.

i dropped something on my mbp keyboard and now the shift key doesn't work. which means i can't access some characters such as question marks/brackets/exclamation marks.

i am gonna buy a new mbp soon hopefully when the 2019 model comes out. however in the meantime is there a way of getting access to characters such as question marks etc without using the shift key

i would type a question mark at the end there but can't.

suggestions most welcome. thanks
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Re: shift key broken on mbp

Postby ef37a » Mon May 13, 2019 7:54 am

Ooo! You mac peeps do get ripped!

Amazon have wireless keyboards for macs but I cannot see anything under 40 quid. PC kbds are half that or much less for USB wired ones.

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Re: shift key broken on mbp

Postby ef37a » Mon May 13, 2019 7:55 am

ef37a wrote:Ooo! You mac peeps do get ripped!

Amazon have wireless keyboards for macs but I cannot see anything under 40 quid. PC kbds are half that or much less for USB wired ones.

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Re: shift key broken on mbp

Postby ReadySaltedChris » Mon May 13, 2019 8:07 am

cheers mate but dont really wanna plug in an external one. i just need to know if i can get a question mark etc without using the shift key. like can i call up a character set and click on a question mark, that kinda thing innit.

a minor problem unless you need to exclaim something or ask a question

i would have out an exclamation mark at the end of that last sentence.

you see the problem

i would have put a question mark there too

grrrrrrrrr
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Re: shift key broken on mbp

Postby Luke W » Mon May 13, 2019 8:47 am

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Re: shift key broken on mbp

Postby ef37a » Mon May 13, 2019 9:05 am

Ok, A couple of years ago I bought two "high visibility" yellow USB keyboards and they were great for my old eyes but then I realized they had missed off the \ backslash key!

Not something you need often but when you do, you do!

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Re: shift key broken on mbp

Postby CS70 » Mon May 13, 2019 9:19 am

Windows has a character map and on screen keyboard, does, sure Mac has too? Search ‘virtual keyboard ‘
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Re: shift key broken on mbp

Postby Dr Huge Longjohns » Mon May 13, 2019 9:37 am

Surely there's a second shift key at the other side of the keyboard under the return key?
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Re: shift key broken on mbp

Postby ReadySaltedChris » Mon May 13, 2019 9:54 am

Dr Huge Longjohns wrote:Surely there's a second shift key at the other side of the keyboard under the return key?

yeah, it don't work.
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Re: shift key broken on mbp

Postby ReadySaltedChris » Mon May 13, 2019 9:55 am


thanks luke - that was working till i got to 'show keyboard viewer' menu. it's a different os so that option seems to have gone

i would do a sad face but i cant.
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Re: shift key broken on mbp

Postby ReadySaltedChris » Mon May 13, 2019 10:03 am

ah i found the virtual keyboard and it doesnt work. same problem as the shift key doesnt work

this is quite bizarre
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Re: shift key broken on mbp

Postby blinddrew » Mon May 13, 2019 10:16 am

Are you sure it's not physically stuck down?
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Re: shift key broken on mbp

Postby The Korff » Mon May 13, 2019 10:25 am

ReadySaltedChris wrote:i would do a sad face but i cant.

:(

"I have no shift key and I must sadface."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Have_No_Mouth,_and_I_Must_Scream
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Re: shift key broken on mbp

Postby Hugh Robjohns » Mon May 13, 2019 10:28 am

I suspect the easiest option will be to use the Character Viewer window in the Mac, and double-click on the question mark (or any other characters) as required to insert them into the current document.

However, there is a another way if you can use ASCII unicode numbers...

On a Windows machine you can do direct-entry ASCII unicode using the ALT key plus a three digit numeric code. So ALT+151 produces an m-dash: — and ALT+063 produces a question mark: ?

I think on a Mac you have to enable the unicode entry mode as a system preference before it will work, but once done CMD+code should enter the relevant characters for you.

I'm not a Mac user, but a google suggests you need to go to international system preferences-> input menu and check the box next to "Unicode hex". Then switch to unicode input in the menu bar. To enter a unicode character you hold alt and enter the hexadecimal unicode value.

There's an ascii table of the relevant codes here: https://www.ascii-code.com/
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Re: shift key broken on mbp

Postby ReadySaltedChris » Mon May 13, 2019 11:06 am

Hugh Robjohns wrote:I suspect the easiest option will be to use the Character Viewer window in the Mac, and double-click on the question mark (or any other characters) as required to insert them into the current document.

However, there is a another way if you can use ASCII unicode numbers...

On a Windows machine you can do direct-entry ASCII unicode using the ALT key plus a three digit numeric code. So ALT+151 produces an m-dash: — and ALT+063 produces a question mark: ?

I think on a Mac you have to enable the unicode entry mode as a system preference before it will work, but once done CMD+code should enter the relevant characters for you.

I'm not a Mac user, but a google suggests you need to go to international system preferences-> input menu and check the box next to "Unicode hex". Then switch to unicode input in the menu bar. To enter a unicode character you hold alt and enter the hexadecimal unicode value.

There's an ascii table of the relevant codes here: https://www.ascii-code.com/

thanks alot hugh

will try that
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Re: shift key broken on mbp

Postby Hugh Robjohns » Mon May 13, 2019 11:09 am

Again... not a Mac user but my friend Mr Google suggests:

System Preferences > Keyboard, and tick "Show Keyboard & Character Viewers in menu bar". Then, press the viewer button on the menu bar (at the top right part of the display) and open Character Viewer.

You can also open it from any application, by going to Edit menu (on the menu bar) > Special Characters
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Re: shift key broken on mbp

Postby ReadySaltedChris » Mon May 13, 2019 11:18 am

Ah, I found the character viewer ‼‼‼

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Re: shift key broken on mbp

Postby ReadySaltedChris » Mon May 13, 2019 11:18 am

cheers hugh!
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Re: shift key broken on mbp

Postby Hugh Robjohns » Mon May 13, 2019 11:31 am

:thumbup: :D
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Re: shift key broken on mbp

Postby Sam Spoons » Mon May 13, 2019 1:12 pm

Odd that both shift keys are not working after physical damage to the keyboard?
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