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Re: Can someone still make it now? What are the odds? Mixerman says we are all hobbyists now.

Postby Mixerman » Wed Aug 28, 2019 9:51 pm

hobbyist wrote:Mixerman is trying to adapt. He is old in a young peoples game.
Will he succeed with his songs. I doubt anywhere near like when he was a name in mixing.

The Music Business requires constant adaptation. I reinvented myself numerous times through my career. These days I mix and produce out of Asheville NC. I have a beautiful mix suite in my house, I've got studios all around me, and talented musicians too. So, anyone can come to me from anywhere, and I can make their record, because I have everything that I need to do it available to me. Including a robust discography of records that are still beloved today. I get work because of The Pharcyde. I get work because of Ben Harper. I get work because of everything of note that I've done throughout my career.

I also write books. Last year I wrote Musician's Survival Guide to a Killer Record (which is doing very well), and this year I'll write something a bit broader.

I'm not in a young people's game. I don't compete against young people. I can help young people who want it, and do. I can mix your record for an agreed on price. I can produce your record on an agreed upon price. And I can pursue my writing, which I have ownership in.

I'm not trying to be on top of the music business. That article is like four years old, and was largely a promotional piece for the song, but really more for the book. I even said so in the first paragraph. Frankly, I'm probably going to delete it since I no longer find it relevant. Four years is a long time when it comes to technological changes.

I hope that brings some clarity.

Shout out to the haters!

Enjoy,

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Postby Hugh Robjohns » Wed Aug 28, 2019 10:20 pm

Thanks for the clarity, Mixerman.

However, it turned out that 'Hobbiest' had some rather confused, outdated, and sometimes quite unpleasant viewpoints, which he combined with massive negativity. Understandable, perhaps, but as he caused considerable upset and unrest amongst other forum members it was not acceptable, it didnt improve despite warnings, and so he is no longer a member.

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Postby johnny h » Wed Aug 28, 2019 10:41 pm

Hugh Robjohns wrote:Thanks for the clarity, Mixerman.

However, it turned out that 'Hobbiest' had some rather confused, outdated, and sometimes quite unpleasant viewpoints, which he combined with massive negativity. Understandable, perhaps, but as he caused considerable upset and unrest amongst other forum members it was not acceptable, it didnt improve despite warnings, and so he is no longer a member.
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Postby zenguitar » Wed Aug 28, 2019 10:50 pm

Someone with mod status hit the kill switch. With the full support of the mod team.

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Postby Eddy Deegan » Wed Aug 28, 2019 11:21 pm

A decision I too support, though with some sadness. I wish Hobbyist well in finding something to be positive about.
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Postby James Perrett » Wed Aug 28, 2019 11:41 pm

zenguitar wrote:Someone with mod status hit the kill switch. With the full support of the mod team.

I'll put my hand up to doing it - but only after I had to remove a seriously derogatory post for the second time that evening.
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Postby CS70 » Wed Aug 28, 2019 11:48 pm

Yeah, I was really annoyed by one of these derogatory posts and had already penned a report... but the guy seemed so in a bad place... so I didnt push "send" in the end.

Hope all the best for him, and that he can one day return with a lighter heart and in a better place.
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Postby johnny h » Thu Aug 29, 2019 12:41 am

CS70 wrote:Yeah, I was really annoyed by one of these derogatory posts and had already penned a report... but the guy seemed so in a bad place... so I didnt push "send" in the end.
On this thread on in the lounge?
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Postby CS70 » Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:06 am

Dont remember, really - think it was a reply to BJG145 (so likely the lounge), which has mercifully disappeared.
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Postby johnny h » Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:55 am

CS70 wrote:Dont remember, really - think it was a reply to BJG145 (so likely the lounge), which has mercifully disappeared.
Damn .. BJG145? He's like the nicest guy on here!

Yeah good riddance he was a real bad vibe.
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Postby awjoe » Thu Aug 29, 2019 6:26 am

blinddrew wrote:Ok, based 100% on that definition, i'm going to say that's unlikely. Certainly in the early stages such an ecosystem will have to compromise on some or all of those things until you've established your USP.
But that doesn't mean it couldn't work in the longer term.

I reckon... ;)

Okay, sorry - I've been away. So... someone can make it in the longer term is that what you're saying? Yeah, sometimes, sometimes not. I still manage not to make money at this, so I guess either I'm not compromising or not establishing my USP. What's USP?
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Postby Wonks » Thu Aug 29, 2019 6:56 am

Unique Selling Point.

Something that makes you different from everyone else that people like.

E.g. you may have two heads, so you can sing a duet with yourself. ;)
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Postby Arpangel » Thu Aug 29, 2019 9:36 am

I've only know one person in my life, personally, who "made it" in respect to all of the goals mentioned here. And like a lot of people, he didn't make a conscious effort to achieve financial or commercial success, it just all fell into place.
He also had enormous talent, an incredibaly original and influential guitarist, endorsed by many of his contemporarys. He is a great song writer, he's achieved chart successes, and managed to make a good living from royalties in his later life. only having to take other employment as royalties dropped owning to free downloads.
This guy didn't have a grand plan, a big picture, a business plan, a knowledge of PR marketing and distribution, all he had were his songs, and his talent, and a record company who saw that that they could make money out of him. The old structure worked well, you sat at home writing, they took care of business, you cannot be expected to have all of the resources and skills of a large company.
He was in the right place at the right time, and he would never have thought in a million years his life would turn out the way it did.
He chngaed the landscape as far as guitar playing and sound goes, and compared with a lot of other people in the business got a fraction of what he deserved. But at least he made a living, doing what he loved, how good can it get beyond that?
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Postby awjoe » Thu Aug 29, 2019 4:58 pm

Wonks wrote:Unique Selling Point.

Something that makes you different from everyone else that people like.

E.g. you may have two heads, so you can sing a duet with yourself. ;)

Hey, I've got the two heads AND a ukulele, so that covers 'different'. I've always figured that if I make music that I like, there are bound to be people somewhere who like it as well, so that covers the second requirement. I guess I'm just not that good. :D
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